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Which on has more portal DPS?
Feb 28th, 2010 at 11:08pm
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+++ greensteel maul (holy, good burst, good blast)

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+1 holy burst greatsword of greater construct bane


which should my barb use?
  
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Re: Which on has more portal DPS?
Reply #1 - Feb 28th, 2010 at 11:19pm
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To my noobish eyes i would go for the gcb wep. I dont know what the damage enchenments on the  gs item thanslate to yet.

Not to derail the thread any but my WC bard is THF and uses a falc because everyone said the crit range was better and more damage overall. So how come I dont see too many GS falch and alot GS greatswords and greataxes. I am just now gettting a couple of toons up to shrould lvl to start farming for ingredients and was just curious.
  
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Re: Which on has more portal DPS?
Reply #2 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 12:11am
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woody wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 11:19pm:
To my noobish eyes i would go for the gcb wep. I dont know what the damage enchenments on the  gs item thanslate to yet.

Not to derail the thread any but my WC bard is THF and uses a falc because everyone said the crit range was better and more damage overall. So how come I dont see too many GS falch and alot GS greatswords and greataxes. I am just now gettting a couple of toons up to shrould lvl to start farming for ingredients and was just curious.


Axes because Dwarves have the damage enhancements, GS probably from when it was your only option in GS and also the SoS
  

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Re: Which on has more portal DPS?
Reply #3 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 12:26am
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Auran wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 12:11am:
Axes because Dwarves have the damage enhancements, GS probably from when it was your only option in GS and also the SoS


So right now there is no option for a GS Falchion? Just great sword and greataxe?
  
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Re: Which on has more portal DPS?
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woody wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 12:26am:
So right now there is no option for a GS Falchion? Just great sword and greataxe?

You can make a falchion.  What he was saying is that back in the day, you couldn't.  When greensteel first came out, none of the good weapons were available - greataxe, rapier, etc.
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 1:57am
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woody wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 12:26am:
So right now there is no option for a GS Falchion? Just great sword and greataxe?


you can make a falchion. since the attack speed was normalised, some players have switched to falchions. many will still rely on greataxes and swords as it takes a pretty large investment of larges, esp scales. i'm not sure how good it is but the latest calculations suggest that falchion has the edge in dps under normal circumstances. however, the disadvantage is this dps is largely crit based which means a GS or GA will be much stronger against 100% fort mobs

as to my "pedicament", i'm a wf barb

maul = 2d8 (9 base) + 5 + 2d6 (7 holy) + 1d6 (3.5 good) for 18 attacks of 24.5 and,
1 attack of 19.5 + 4d6 (14 good blast) + 4d6 (14 good blast crit) + 4d6 (14 good burst crit) = 66.5

this is assuming a x3 crit. if you account frenzy and the scaling of burst, its 24.5 + (2x7d6) + 4d6 = 87.5
so total damage in 20 attacks = 528.5 (assumption that good burst and good blast and crits stacks)
if i were to swop over to imp crit blunt, its 1 more attack of 24.5 + (2x)7d6 = 73.5. total = 577.5

GS = 2d6 (7 base) + 1 + 4 (greater bane) + 2d6 (7 holy) + 3d6 (10.5 greater bane) = 29.5 (15 attacks)
4 attacks of 29.5 + 6d6 (21 burst) = 50.5
total = 644.5 (assuming burst scales with frenzy, +4 from gtr bane counts), if +4 doesnt count, its 568.5)

pls point out the errors in my math
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:57am
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woody wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 11:19pm:
So how come I dont see too many GS falch and alot GS greatswords and greataxes. I am just now gettting a couple of toons up to shrould lvl to start farming for ingredients and was just curious.


Even though it's already been answered three times, each of those responses required knowledge of past updates, so I'll simplify it just in case you aren't up on your history.

Up until the game went free to play falchions (and mauls) were a bad choice because of the code involving attack animations.  Falchions had a slower swing speed for some reason, causing you to lose attacks compared to greatswords and greataxes.  Since tier 3 greensteel weapons are often expensive to make many people who already had weapons crafted have decided that the slight damage increase isn't worth crafting a new weapon.
  
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Re: Which on has more portal DPS?
Reply #7 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 7:21pm
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Demoyn wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:57am:
Up until the game went free to play falchions (and mauls) were a bad choice because of the code involving attack animations.  Falchions had a slower swing speed for some reason


To give the reason for this, way back when, some developer (well, one of the guys responsible for the animations) decided that when they made the animations for falchions and mauls swing at the same rate as Great Swords and Great Axes, they didn't like how it looked. So they made them slower, pretty much gimping 2 weapons for 3 and a half years because of a personal preference.
  

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Re: Which on has more portal DPS?
Reply #8 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:24pm
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Wait...Mauls and Great Axes have ALWAYS swung at the same rate...they were faster than Falchions and Greatswords.

Recently, the Devs sped up the Greatsword's and the Falchion's animations to the same as Mauls and Greataxes.
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Reply #9 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:27pm
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Hmm... that may be true, but I never saw anyone using mauls and I constantly saw people using greatswords (myself included).  As such I thought it was the other way around.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:58pm
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Demoyn wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:27pm:
Hmm... that may be true, but I never saw anyone using mauls and I constantly saw people using greatswords (myself included).  As such I thought it was the other way around.


many people went for GS for the higher base damage for portal beating and lose some dps but save large scales by using the same weapon for harry. the people with larges to spare or have a portal weapon ie blacksteel made mauls
  
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Re: Which on has more portal DPS?
Reply #11 - Mar 2nd, 2010 at 1:19am
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Aranticus wrote on Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:58pm:
many people went for GS for the higher base damage for portal beating and lose some dps but save large scales by using the same weapon for harry. the people with larges to spare or have a portal weapon ie blacksteel made mauls


I generally hit portals on my fighter with his Mineral IIs cause I can't be bothered carrying extra weapons for them, so sue me Tongue
  

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Re: Which on has more portal DPS?
Reply #12 - Mar 2nd, 2010 at 6:26pm
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Portals don't hit back.  Why worry?
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 2nd, 2010 at 9:13pm
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its more of a confirmation of how burst work, how burst work with frenzy and how the greater bane enhancement bonus work
  
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portal DPS?!  srsly?  nigger harder, troll!
  
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