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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Twitch Fighting Jun 24^th, 2010 at 1:27pm	Print Post
	I was reading about 'twitch' fighting and was trying to work out how to do it with a greataxe. I assume it's when you do the sideways slash that's the first animation, followed by the overhead chop, which is the second animation, then move slightly to the side and repeat, without following through the full attack sequence. While playing around with this today, I found that if I jumped and then held the jump button down as I landed, I would keep doing the side to side slash that you do when you're running and holding down attack. I still have the to hit penalty as if I was moving, but I'm standing on the spot, just swinging side to side. It's pretty fast and it seems to have more dps than following through or doing the 'twich' from side to side. Is this a commonly used technique?


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #1 - Jun 24^th, 2010 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	Yes
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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #2 - Jun 24^th, 2010 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	Astraghal wrote on Jun 24^th, 2010 at 1:27pm: I still have the to hit penalty as if I was moving, but I'm standing on the spot, just swinging side to side. It's pretty fast and it seems to have more dps than following through or doing the 'twich' from side to side. Is this a commonly used technique? Speaking in a pre-U5 frame of reference, I believe twitch is slightly faster than spacebar holding. I mentioned the spacebar-holding method on the forum once and Axer spewed a bunch of numbers at me. I didn't pay any attention to the numbers or anything else he said (does anyone?), but when it comes to DDO, he's often right.

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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #3 - Jun 25^th, 2010 at 7:03am	Print Post
	Strakeln wrote on Jun 24^th, 2010 at 6:42pm: Speaking in a pre-U5 frame of reference, I believe twitch is slightly faster than spacebar holding.� I mentioned the spacebar-holding method on the forum once and Axer spewed a bunch of numbers at me.� I didn't pay any attention to the numbers or anything else he said (does anyone?), but when it comes to DDO, he's often right. I experimented a bit, it probably is faster to move, but if you get the timing slightly wrong you lose speed.


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Felgor Shroud Slacker Offline Go Fuck Yourself Posts: 1011 Joined: Jun 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #4 - Jun 29^th, 2010 at 1:19am	Print Post
	A lot of people speak of it, but I rarely see anyone actually practice it in game. Many also call it cheating, cheesey etc. IMO buying mana pots from the DDO store is more akin to cheating than ignoring that craptastic looking full THF anaimation. It does take a while to get good at. Took me 4million+ XP to get pretty good at it now. I like it because it is faster, and more interactive. Auto attack on raid bosses is so...boring. Keep at it, practice on portals too, but they need more intuition since it's harder to see.

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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #5 - Jun 29^th, 2010 at 5:39am	Print Post
	Felgor wrote on Jun 29^th, 2010 at 1:19am: A lot of people speak of it, but I rarely see anyone actually practice it in game. Many also call it cheating, cheesey etc. IMO buying mana pots from the DDO store is more akin to cheating than ignoring that craptastic looking full THF anaimation. It does take a while to get good at. Took me 4million+ XP to get pretty good at it now. I like it because it is faster, and more interactive. Auto attack on raid bosses is so...boring. Keep at it, practice on portals too, but they need more intuition since it's harder to see. With a minimum ping of 300+ I'm not going to bother with twitching. There are a lot of situations where having a cluster of people standing around the same spot kind of makes it hard to see what's going on. I'd have to be able to see my toon clearly to get the timing right. I have been using the hold jump while swinging style on portals and bosses and the occasional mob, as it's higher dps than following through with the full attack chain. I'll have to see if glancing blows are removed from this style with the new update and adjust accordingly. It might be better to go back to the full attack chain if that is the case.


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Felgor Shroud Slacker Offline Go Fuck Yourself Posts: 1011 Joined: Jun 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #6 - Jun 30^th, 2010 at 4:24am	Print Post
	Astraghal wrote on Jun 29^th, 2010 at 5:39am: With a minimum ping of 300+ I'm not going to bother with twitching. There are a lot of situations where having a cluster of people standing around the same spot kind of makes it hard to see what's going on. I'd have to be able to see my toon clearly to get the timing right. I have been using the hold jump while swinging style on portals and bosses and the occasional mob, as it's higher dps than following through with the full attack chain. I'll have to see if glancing blows are removed from this style with the new update and adjust accordingly. It might be better to go back to the full attack chain if that is the case. For the record I live in Melbourne I have to adjust to the slower attack speed on my barb now, which is annoying. I am not sure twitch is going to add much if any dps now.

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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #7 - Jun 30^th, 2010 at 9:45am	Print Post
	You know what's interesting...� I didn't wanna say anything on the main boards but jumping still seems to proc glancing blows while twitching doesn't.� I was experimenting a bit out in GH while farming renown and gathering relics for a couple lowbies. I'm by no means a twitch gaming expert though so if someone else want to investigate...
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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #8 - Jun 30^th, 2010 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Jun 30^th, 2010 at 9:45am: You know what's interesting...� I didn't wanna say anything on the main boards but jumping still seems to proc glancing blows while twitching doesn't.� I was experimenting a bit out in GH while farming renown and gathering relics for a couple lowbies.� I'm by no means a twitch gaming expert though so if someone else want to investigate... I thought so too, I'll check later to see for sure and let you know.


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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #9 - Jun 30^th, 2010 at 7:47pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Jun 30^th, 2010 at 9:45am: You know what's interesting...� I didn't wanna say anything on the main boards but jumping still seems to proc glancing blows while twitching doesn't.� I was experimenting a bit out in GH while farming renown and gathering relics for a couple lowbies.� I'm by no means a twitch gaming expert though so if someone else want to investigate... lol, nice. Good old Turbine, shittiest QA this side of the Mississippi.

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Steelrock Dragon Raider Offline Elite Raiders Posts: 209 Joined: Oct 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #10 - Jun 30^th, 2010 at 9:10pm	Print Post
	Please specifiy, North., South, East or West of?

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #11 - Jun 30^th, 2010 at 9:22pm	Print Post
	Steelrock wrote on Jun 30^th, 2010 at 9:10pm: Please specifiy, North., South, East or West of? EVERYBODY knows Strak lives in upstate New York. You figure it out!

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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #12 - Jun 30^th, 2010 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	Well, I'd put it in relation to Turbine's location (Boston MA).

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Demoyn Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #13 - Jun 30^th, 2010 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	Steelrock wrote on Jun 30^th, 2010 at 9:10pm: Please specifiy, North., South, East or West of? I think to give an accurate description it would have to encompass all directions.


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Steelrock Dragon Raider Offline Elite Raiders Posts: 209 Joined: Oct 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #14 - Jul 1^st, 2010 at 12:11am	Print Post
	Demoyn wrote on Jun 30^th, 2010 at 11:43pm: I think to give an accurate description it would have to encompass all directions. This I like! And I know Strak has a New York state of mind, TYVM.
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	Turbine is a company, not your friend. If a company you have been loyal to suddenly changes their product so that it either is worse or not even working any more then only a complete fool would continue to patronize them. Business only understands one thing, the bottom line. The posters above who have a delusional perception of their relationship with Turbine seem to be suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
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- Jay Korthos Resident Offline RAWR~! Posts: 86 Location: Earth (apparently) Joined: Mar 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #15 - Jul 1^st, 2010 at 1:51am	Print Post
	looks like the new bloods needs lessons in twitching combat :p


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Gol Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 26 Joined: Jul 1^st, 2010	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #16 - Jul 1^st, 2010 at 9:04pm	Print Post
	Jumping only gives your client the twitching animations. Others (other clients and the server) don't register the twitch. It has been this way as long as I've twitched (update 2ish). That's why you get glancing blows on it - you're not really twitching.


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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #17 - Jul 1^st, 2010 at 9:21pm	Print Post
	Gol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2010 at 9:04pm: Jumping only gives your client the twitching animations.� Others (other clients and the server) don't register the twitch.� It has been this way as long as I've twitched (update 2ish).� That's why you get glancing blows on it - you're not really twitching. Has anyone measured this? My point here is that this is not definitive... take tumbling, for example. Remember back in the day, no one could see you tumble? We'd need to measure the hits over a timed period to firmly establish which end the error is on.

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Antir Shroud Slacker Offline Hi Welcome Posts: 1297 Joined: Jul 1^st, 2009 Gender:	Re: Twitch Fighting Reply #18 - Jul 2^nd, 2010 at 4:17am	Print Post
	Gol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2010 at 9:04pm: Jumping only gives your client the twitching animations.� Others (other clients and the server) don't register the twitch.� It has been this way as long as I've twitched (update 2ish).� That's why you get glancing blows on it - you're not really twitching. Oh no, another Argo asshat!

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