I can't speak for all you in the larger, established guilds, but coming from a small, friends only guild it really puts a strain on you.  We have 7 players in our guild, maybe 20 toons.

I play more actively than any other member and am constantly pugging Velania in raids because of the guild only myself and one other guy play often enough to raid at end game level. 

As a result, I'm looking to move my 3 end game toons into a larger, high quality guild.  Actually been thinking about it for quite a while, this is just the straw that broke the camel's back.

My feeling is that you will see a lot of people moving from smaller guilds to larger ones.  Or smaller guilds consolidating to pool resources. 

But that's just my personal experience so far.

I had characters in several guilds. I pulled them all in Fallen Heroes because I was worried I would cause decay for other guilds. I have one lowbie in Crimson Eagles. I need to talk with Aranticus about if that will be a problem.

I think FH has picked up some new people out of this. Emili has cleared out old characters that have played in a long time. That is the only things I have noticed.

A couple thoughts on my part:

1) I am aware of a couple of smaller guilds that have merged or where in talks to merge with larger ones on Khyber.
2) I'm not seeing a huge advantage for the larger guilds thus far.  Yes, they are a few levels ahead but the rate of increase has started to slow as the amount of renown required increases. It seems like ransacking renown takes a way a significant portion of large guilds advantages.  It will be interesting to see how this plays with decay...the best composition may end up being an active midsized guild.
3) I think creating new guilds will be business as usual once the 'ohhh shiny' effect wears off.  The base model ship is pretty easily attainable especially for a vet splinter guild.

Eladiun wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2010 at 10:28am:

Maybe we're saying the same thing, but I thought the decay was based on the number of accounts in the guild -- not whether the account was active or not. 

If you have between x and y accounts in your guild, your rate of decay is z per day.  So moving the accounts into FH doesn't hurt FH, but may help the other guild if they get below some magic number.

Eladiun wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2010 at 10:48am:


Didn't anyone tell you?  DDO is "the game with no grind"!

Eladiun wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2010 at 10:48am:


I could see this making larger guilds be more strict on the activity level requirements for membership.  A guy who doesn't log on for several weeks might be more likely to get the boot.

What really pisses me off is that in order to have the best gear and buffs now, you will need to be in a high level guild.

I can just imagine the prices some of those augment slot items will be put up for on the AH once the slot properties become widely known. I imagine a lot of builds will be need to be modified to work in the changes implemented in U5.

Edit: I also don't like the power it gives a guild leader to arbitrarily nerf a player who's build relies on being in a high level guild to function optimally. I can just imagine the future drama that will ensue because of this mechanic.

Yep, it's not accounts it's characters.

Hordo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2010 at 9:23am:

/shakesfist 

Dark_Helmet wrote on Jul 10^th, 2010 at 2:49pm:


In my guild, we posted an MOTD for everyone to log onto alts so we could know who was an inactive vs. a seldom used alt.  We are planning to make a holding guild for people who know they will be inactive for extended periods.

I agree though what should be just a fun extra has turned into a money grab.  I'm not sold on the low level buffs they are nice but hardly worth running back to the ship between each quest.

In our Guild Charter it states that if an account is inactive for a certain period of time either in-game or on the website even it may be booted unless they posted something in the Absence Forum.  This way our active duty folks, or ill folks, can remain, while others that just disappeared can be removed on a monthly basis without problem...usually.  Anyone who has been removed from the guild for Time purposes can just ask for a reinvite once their website access has been reapproved.

So, basically we warn folks coming in that we will boot their ass if they aren't active...problem solved even before renown.

Demoyn wrote on Jul 12^th, 2010 at 2:06pm:

It was a unanimous vote...oopsie, I meant anonymous.