I went away for a some months and come back and start running shroud on my cleric. Before I left my method that I was taught was to turn on Empower heal and spam MCLW,MCMW, then MCMW scroll. Rinse and repeat. Now I notice that now since the change to mass heal so it effects more than 6 people it has become the default tatic for healing in parts 4 and 5 with alot of the clerics that I have been pugging with.

What this leads to is I've been seeing is a large gap between the heals because of the cooldown from the second healer and a larger danger zone for the fighter types to get killed when fighting harry.

Was wondering if the method I learned is outdated and two clerics spamming Mass Heal is more effecient at keeping players up when fighting harry or is being able to spam mass heal effectivly kinda like chasing a dream because of the cooldown.

TL;DR
Is the spell mass heal effective shroud healing when fighting harry?

I agree Woody, I've seen more groups get in trouble with the Mass Heal delay than I have with seen problems with Mass Cures.  It's pretty rare to run into spell point issues, so why are they doing it?  I stick with the Mass Cures, but I rarely run my cleric in there.

I always start out with MCLW/MCMW and scroll like you said and if I notice that everyone is getting low, I'll throw out a quickened Mass Heal.  I've heard clerics yell at me telling me to ONLY Mass Heal as it's more effective, but if I can keep everyone up with MC, why not?

I think a bigger problem is that you're finding a lot of the newer players with their first high level character with an 8 base con and run in to beat on Harry with 150 hp and die right away.  Or they get hit once and they are barely alive so clerics are forced to quicken and throw as many heals as possible.  I won't alter my playstyle for those tards - let them die every time.  I ran with a drow rogue that died from the devils before Harry even dropped the first time. 

In pugs, I have a standing rule that if you can't survive during the cooldown of Mass Heal, then your choice is to range and survive or melee and die.  Not a problem in guild runs, and means you only need 1 healer.  Occasionally I'll toss a MCLW while Mass Heal is on timer if means success vs failure.

For Elite (which we do daily now for renown), just take 2 healers and have them alternate.  Did elite last night, actually, with no pot usage and only 2 healers (both 2700+ SP Favored Souls, though).

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Ding ding!  We have a winner, folks.

Back before the newb invasion and the fix to mass heal, I was primarily using mass heal in part 4.  I had the occasional issue with the limit of 6 - just tossed a single heal now and then if more than 6 were in the middle.  Of course, finding any melee with under 400 HP was pretty rare at that point in time.

I think it just takes some practice.  Of course, I never turn off quicken...

Gol wrote on Jul 9^th, 2010 at 4:24pm:


i dunno i never have to use pots on hard/elite

The only problem i have ever had with healing in the Shroud 4 and 5 is using more sp than is needed to keep up with the lag. I only used pots in the early days when most people did not have the right weapons for bypassing DR 3+ rounds.

Strakeln wrote on Jul 9^th, 2010 at 9:35pm:

No, it is still the same. In fact i saw some of the old we are in part 3 and that guy is still part 1 kind of lag has come back.

What's the gnoll sr ?