As with all guilds the Helper's Guild and Epitaph are going to eventually breakdown as their core community develops its own style.

As much as I like you, Eladiun, I have to say that 99.9% of the Helpers Guild people I have run with are tards.  They have just enough information to be dangerous and try to take over any run that they're in just to show everyone else that they've run it before.  I had a Helper's Guild guy the other night in a TFC run talkandtalkandtalkandtalk through the whole thing giving pointless instruction.  Most of us were on Vent so we just ignored it.  But it was very indicative of my interactions with the guild as a whole.

Eladiun wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 11:31pm:

Most of my interactions with the Helper's Guild have been ok but i must say that they panic very easily when they are quite obviously are not confident in what they are doing.

My point was about the size of the guild and the DOT effect which is normal and natural it was not meant to be a criticism.

I was basically saying that like development of all guilds they will go through stages when they need to sort things out. "Breakdown" does not mean die it just means something needs to be fixed. How the core community handles that situation will determine the future of the guild. I like to be brief and sometimes i do not fully explain everything i had in mind.

Eladiun wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 11:44pm:


Sisster has been a friend of mine since I started playing again back in Jan. She is a pretty good healer wouldn't say awesome but she knows what she is doing for the most part. I for the most part have had no problems with The Helpers Guild members and would definately not lump them with the Epitards. 

Eladiun wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 11:44pm:


there is a problem when the retart is a guild leader. i was in a TS run where your guild leader was first leading. in that run was also vikconis. there are people who have not done TS before and your leader chose to run it on hard. he didnt tell people what was being expected of them (u do not expect people who have not raided before, yes i know TS is not a real raid, to know everything that is needed). at the end of the day, me, vik and a ranger from your guild (who was threatened for explusion because he ran ahead, but seriously, your guild leader is SLOW, getting lost here and there) had most of the kills

what is my basic expectations? adamantine weapons if not metalline (no these are not hard to get), people were not punching thru golem DR. a decent build (yes it would greatly help if more officers like you can subtlely show them the mechanics of toon building) as many of them were missing, even the casters, regularly (i myddoed one of the rangers, twf, longswords, max dex no str!). self sufficiency is another issue, rangers that expect healers to keep them alive AND topped up, pallys that do not know how to cure disease. people running around blind (alrite, i fess up! it was fun seeing 1 guy run into the spike traps and ding!)

its with such attitudes that many people bring up the levels and into endgame raids...

When was this, I've run TS multiple times with Cray and never seen this sort of thing (but I have a good guess as to who the ranger was).  If was recent I would be surprised otherwise he is a newer player as well.  Leading raids even TS is a learned skill and can only be learned by trying and failing.

Aranticus wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 12:34am:


If one could change the past they would be quite wealthy, I for one can only focus on the now and the future.  As for reading the rants in the drama vault to get a feel for what people think, I might be better off using the National Enquirer for stock tips.

Eladiun wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 12:39am:


i do not disagree that rants here are drama based but the point here is we are a lot more honest and raw in our rants. if u see someone with a rant on helpers guild, send him/her a tell and i'm pretty sure it will be honest. my months of reading stuff in here have given me a pretty accurate assessment of some of the players i met and true to the rants on these forums, those runs are really entertaining. as to national enquirer, it hasnt made me rich yet

Eladiun wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 12:53am:


i dun want to force my guild's officer styles on you but in CE this is what we do. when people ask about toon building, we insist on it being in guild channel and not in PM. this allows us to subtlely influnce the rest of the guildies. when guildies make weird builds, we have an officer who makes some, we are unafraid to ask and also they are unafraid to answer. more importantly, raids main roles are the best in terms of good toon building tips

Aranticus wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 1:03am:

Yes anyone who is in CE cannot use his toon until Aranticus approves of their character build.

Eladiun wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 11:44pm:

I've run with Sisster (and her alt Stillness) and have always had good experiences.
But in general I have to say that at this point in time accepting a Helper is a bit of a crap shoot.  You may get someone that's fun to run with.  You may get a tard.  Roll the dice....

Tell her Shinobi says hi

Eladiun wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 11:44pm:



Didn't know you were in Helper's Guild.  I've run with Sisster before.  She was a great healer, and really sweet person, too.  She's one of the few people on my friends list.

TBH, I haven't really noticed any bad behavior from anyone in Helper's Guild.  Apparently others have, but I'm not seeing it.