Seems to happen sometimes when you cast spells.

Best way to fix it is to just attack (or scroll punch or whatever) seems to reset it.

Inkblack wrote on Jul 21^st, 2010 at 8:58am:


That actually makes a little bit of sense. I had scroll in main and torch in the off hand. I will test it out when I log in tonight.

I think I have an answer for you.

Go see the cleric trainer and have them remove the enhancement.
I am tired of running into clerics with this enhancement in places like amrath.
It is creating a new breed of 'laziness' that I just cant stand.
It's like the way to play a cleric without actually, you know, 'playing' one.

I think I will begin screening clerics for this enhancement in the near future.
Oh, you say you have radiant servant?
/boot
/decline

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Does this count for battleclerics?  The RS aura seems perfect for them. 

I've been planning to drag my old BC out of retirement and respec him, but haven't gotten around to it.

These are the issues I have with the enhancement.

For it's cost, I (me, personally) can spend those points elsewhere.
Empowered healing feat is a waste.
350 base for heal is plenty, crit @ 650-1k=gravy.
Mass heal (mass heal, not mass cure) is also a joke of a spell.
I've seen too many instances in raid situation where the divines watch 2-5 party members go *splat* mid-cast.
Low health bars do not inspire your melee to go full-bore on raid bosses.
These reasons negate empowered healing feat.
But..but..I have quicken too!
Great now you've wasted 2 feats.
Put your points in concentration nOOb.

'Newer' players are seeing this enhancement line as a replacement for interaction.
Just yesterday, running genesis, I have a cleric RS join the group.
I was already in and clearing.
Rest of party gets in and this guy shows up with RS rolling.
0 buffs except DW when it was asked for.
He never used one shrine, start to finish.
Of course the caster is away from the rest of the party and looked to have about 50 hp left.
I mentioned that he might consider healing the caster before she died.
About 10 secs later he managed to throw a cure her direction.
I tell this guy he really should consider opening his wallet and letting some mana out.
I have never seen such stingey use of a terribly powerful class.
Stand next to the melee and shield block, that's all they do.
Worse part about all of it, is now I feel like I have promoted this poor playstyle by getting some jackass closer to flag.

This is only one example of the pleth'aura' of shitty players feeling they are making a contribution by simply being there.

This has been witnessed too many times from alot of different players to make me feel otherwise about it.
The good clerics I run with upon occasion that have tried the enhancement have mostly reverted to their previous setup for enhancements.

I'm glad they have too...
I would hate to decline them for a raid.

Asheras wrote on Jul 26^th, 2010 at 3:10pm:





Shitty healers before the PrE = Shitty healers after the PrE now with a pretty glow.

read the second sentence again...

and jesus dont have nothin to do with it.

BTW, Thought I had read somewhere that any melee attack by the RS would break the aura?
Wouldnt that negate the benefits to a melee cleric?

Bottom line is, the PrE sucks ass.
I will not be forced into a healbot role.
What do I need empowered healing for?
Maximize is superior for my build.
Mass cure light hitting for a couple hundred and maximize is wayyyy better when it comes to offensive casting.
So, why would I take a feat that is only going to affect heal and mass heal?
Oh wait, maybe I should take it so I can have the new aura like all the other cool kids.
Not a chance in hell.

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on my clr i love it. it means i go more sp to lay more bb down

Aranticus wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 4:35am:



I am gong to agree with this. The clerics in our group use it during melee, kind of a filler of sorts, while the intermittently lay down BB or another offensive spell. If something hits hard then they cast a real cure spell. Aside that, if your neurotic and need to have your red bar topped off, then turn around run through the aura and go back to what your doing.

Its not a waste, just a style preference, and not necessarily a lazy style preference; however, I see where your coming from SLink and have seen Clerics use it in how you describe, but to call a bad apple the barrell is a slippery slope at best.

I can really see where the mass heal tatic would work and prevail as the defacto healing method in the shroud, but I think it is really limited by the group itself and is thus restricted to guild or friend runs. When pugging you dont know if everyone is specced out, geared up, or built correctly until they get to harry. Add to that that using the mass heal tatic prolly requires some sort of timing with healer #2(if you have one). I think for most pugs I will stick to the spam mcmw and mclw as a constant flow of healing tends to keep people up better in a pug. I have not yet tried it so what I am saying is prolly all false but I have yet to find a shroud group that will allow me to experiment on them to get a real idea of how it works out.

Aranticus wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:59pm:


Had that happen on my bard. Was swinging away at harry then I took a metor to the face and went incap.Then died. After a lenghty time of wondering why everyones hp was getting really low. Then 4 other melees joined me in the afterlife shortly after I died. Then 2 more. Turns out both our healers were using mass heal prolly no quicken and no filler. I think they were both casting it at the same time too. 
We gave them some new instruction and had no issue with part 5. DPS was good the healers just did'nt know what they were doing.

Timing mishaps with two divines in Shroud parts 4 and 5 happen.  To avoid this, I'll just keep a partial eye on what the other healing party is doing.  They throw mass heals, I throw mass cures... or vice versa.

Totally agree with the concept that mass heal isn't the only thing that one should be using in the shroud.  You get good milage out of Amrath items like Tokala's belt coupled with mass cures.  Not much mana use, and no long animations to deal with if you need to toss a spot heal.  Mass heal is very useful though situationally I would say.