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Reply #25 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 4:56am
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Eladiun wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 2:50am:
That's the crux of the problem without quicken mass heal takes a week cast.  Any lag at all and your screwed.  Healing has been much better and more consistent since U5 though. I hate the TWF changes but I haven't seen a lag fail Shroud since the update.  Actually being able to see bars move at a normal rate rather than jump around makes a huge difference.  The other night we had a Cleric DC and the FvS and Bard carried us through 4 and 5 with no issue and just 2 pots.  Being able to heal rather than spam heals is a huge improvement.


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Reply #26 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 8:23am
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Eladiun wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 2:50am:
That's the crux of the problem without quicken mass heal takes a week cast. 


Not only that, without Quicken, it's too easy to be interrupted even if you have a high Concentration skill. My WF FvS finds Quicken absolutely invaluable in Shroud parts 4 & 5 because he's in there meleeing as well as healing. When those blades come in, it's nice to know those cures are going to go off. Quicken is also great for Amrath content because of all the teleporting mobs there which could interrupt casting. ToD (especially part 2) is also tough on healers with no Quicken. LOTS can happen to interrupt casting.
  

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Reply #27 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 11:14am
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I played a melee cleric for quite a while and I rarely had spells interrupted from concentration.  In fact, I can't remember anyone ever dying from an interrupted spell if I was on my cleric.
  
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Reply #28 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 3:50pm
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Demoyn wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 11:14am:
I played a melee cleric for quite a while and I rarely had spells interrupted from concentration.  In fact, I can't remember anyone ever dying from an interrupted spell if I was on my cleric.


The damage done in ToD and other Amrath content will change your mind. I thought a high Concentration would be all I needed as well but experience taught me differently.

BTW...this is coming from a WF FvS with DR 15/Adamantine.
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Reply #29 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 4:59pm
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I played in Amrath when it came out also.  I had a much higher AC than a warforged FvS, though.  That may have helped.
  
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Reply #30 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 5:07pm
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Aranticus wrote on Jul 28th, 2010 at 9:59pm:
the problem with recent healers going mass heals is they ONLY use mass heals. this means for low hp toons, they are not going to get healed until they are dangerously low. most seasoned vets will chuck a mass heal, followed by a mass cure to avoid such problems. also in many instances, mass heals are used with quicken which many healers these days DO NOT take


I play both an FvS and a Cleric at end game level and both have quicken.  For the sp cost it is well worth it.  It is one of the best metamagics for a healer in raids.  It particularly helps with overcoming lag spikes. 
  
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Reply #31 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 5:12pm
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Dark_Helmet wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 1:43am:
You can say the same thing about Greensteel - and requiring tanks to have over 400 HPs. Those are also the easy button?


A tank with less than 400 hp is not a tank.  It's a gimp.
  
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Reply #32 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:07pm
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Demoyn wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 4:59pm:
I played in Amrath when it came out also.  I had a much higher AC than a warforged FvS, though.  That may have helped.


try healing in part2 Tod when one of the dumb tanks make the boss face the healers direction and fireballs and horrid wilting is exploding in your face
  
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Reply #33 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:08pm
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Asheras wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 5:07pm:
I play both an FvS and a Cleric at end game level and both have quicken.  For the sp cost it is well worth it.  It is one of the best metamagics for a healer in raids.  It particularly helps with overcoming lag spikes. 


same here but noobs... Sigh
  
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Reply #34 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:16pm
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I have a lvl 20 cleric and fvs as well... Quicken is a must
  
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Reply #35 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 7:28pm
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Listen to you guys talking like Quicken isn't auto-selected.  What are you going to tell me next?  That you can turn it off?  lol
  

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Reply #36 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 7:58pm
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Strakeln wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 7:28pm:
Listen to you guys talking like Quicken isn't auto-selected.  What are you going to tell me next?  That you can turn it off?  lol

When i was playing my Cleric quicken was turned off most of the time. If mass heal is the reason why it is on all the time then i think it is a misuse of situational spell. Maybe one day i when i have more Turdbine Points i will turn my cleric into a 32point build and fix some of the issues he has like HPs and concentration, he was built before the change to the agrro mechanics, wow that was a long time ago!
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Reply #37 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 8:28pm
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Antir wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 7:58pm:
When i was playing my Cleric quicken was turned off most of the time. If mass heal is the reason why it is on all the time then i think it is a misuse of situational spell. Maybe one day i when i have more Turdbine Points i will turn my cleric into a 32point build and fix some of the issues he has like HPs and concentration, he was built before the change to the agrro mechanics, wow that was a long time ago!

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Reply #38 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 8:41pm
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Strakeln wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 8:28pm:
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Reply #39 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 10:49pm
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Sisster wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:16pm:
I have a lvl 20 cleric and fvs as well... Quicken is a must


This is a lie.  Quicken is a nice feat, but on non-offensive clerics and favored souls it's not worth the slot.
  
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Reply #40 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 10:57pm
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Demoyn wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 10:49pm:
This is a lie.  Quicken is a nice feat, but on non-offensive clerics and favored souls it's not worth the slot.


what is worth more than quicken? or rather what would a non-offensive cleric/fvs fit into the build that one cant fit in quicken?
  
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Reply #41 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 11:47pm
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Aranticus wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 10:57pm:
what is worth more than quicken? or rather what would a non-offensive cleric/fvs fit into the build that one cant fit in quicken?


TWF, ITWF, GTWF, improved crit, toughness, extend spell, empower healing, exotic proficiency (khopesh), power attack.
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Reply #42 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:34am
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Demoyn wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 11:47pm:
TWF, ITWF, GTWF, improved crit, toughness, extend spell, empower healing, exotic proficiency (khopesh), power attack.

Battleclerics don't count, silly.

That said, wouldn't a battlecleric want quicken even more?
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Reply #43 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:51am
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Strakeln wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:34am:
Battleclerics don't count, silly.

That said, wouldn't a battlecleric want quicken even more?


Not really.  I have quicken on one battle cleric, but the only times I ever turn it on are if I'm fighting 20+ mobs solo (blade barrier) or if I'm in the beginning of Shroud part 2 with a squishy group.  There's rarely a time (REALLY rare) that I can't keep a group up just by having different levels of heal on my bar and using them to never have timers.
  
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Reply #44 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:54am
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silly you strake, he doesnt heal when fighting
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Reply #45 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 1:49am
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I debated on whether to try this out on one of my pure clerics...but it seems to lag out my computer more in raids than is worth it, so decided against it.  And after healing an elite speed shroud on my pure fvs with one other cleric and no pots used, maybe 40 heal scrolls between us, I don't see the point in respeccing one of my girls just so I can lag more Smiley

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Reply #46 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 9:16am
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Aranticus wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:54am:
silly you strake, he doesnt heal when fighting


This is correct by default.  When it's time to heal I jump backwards out of combat.
  
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Reply #47 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 6:32pm
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Demoyn wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:51am:
Not really.  I have quicken on one battle cleric, but the only times I ever turn it on are if I'm fighting 20+ mobs solo (blade barrier) or if I'm in the beginning of Shroud part 2 with a squishy group.  There's rarely a time (REALLY rare) that I can't keep a group up just by having different levels of heal on my bar and using them to never have timers.

Challenge yourself more then.  I often requested to be the solo cleric for shits and grins.  There's no fun in it if it's all easy street.
  

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Reply #48 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 8:13pm
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Strakeln wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 6:32pm:
Challenge yourself more then.  I often requested to be the solo cleric for shits and grins.  There's no fun in it if it's all easy street.


I do challenge myself... to out-DPS the fighters and still not let anyone die.  Except for some of the more elite players I generally succeed.
  
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Reply #49 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 11:48am
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Demoyn wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 8:13pm:
I do challenge myself... to out-DPS the fighters and still not let anyone die.  Except for some of the more elite players I generally succeed.

Well, sure, it's harder for a fighter to kill when they have to keep chugging Silver Flame pots  Grin
  

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