Epoch wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 8:42am:


You are right in that, and I had let it go and avoided the player.  However my first read of any threads in here involved the same player trying to call out a noob who they couldn't scam out of a Ring of the Ancestors.  That and anything else I've witnessed add together to one disingenuous shit sandwich of a player.

@Bacab:

My mistake in this was when I first started to play this game I didn't have a problem loaning things to others.  Yeah, that made me stupid at the time.  Funny thing is that out of all the shit I found and loaned out, only two players ever decided not to return them.  That's not too bad of a hit on my noobish actions at the time.  I gave even more shit away at that time.  And I still harass poor noobs trying to pawn halfway decent vendor trash upon them.  Better than giving them plat I think.  They use the stuff for a couple of levels and sell it for profit.   I got that kind of help on my first gimped toon. 

Astraghal wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 8:03am:


You have the pink girly symbol thingy by you name on these forums. I would say that qualifies as an allude.

Madcow430 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 9:31am:



Hp wise as a human and i am assuming 14 starting con that is about as good as you can do.

Con +1 and +2 with epics. 
and of course a +4 tome

For bracers i would aim for

Leviks (healing amp purpose only)

Main bracers-- Bracers of the glacier. 
They kick ass.  If it falls in your name and someone else wants them, tell them to go fuck a kite. 
Cold shield and archmagi.

Eladiun wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 8:10am:


Oh please, everyone who regularly visits this forum knows EXACTLY what it's about. So spare me the sermon, you uptight little drama lapdog.

Madcow430 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 8:49am:


It was a ring of feathers dickmuncher. At least get your bullshit right before spreading it on the field.

If you even bothered checking you would have seen that the post in question was about a seller making a buyer wait in an open trade window while they negotiate a better deal with someone else.

This, after the buyer agreed to the price the seller advertised the item for in the trade channel.

Strakeln wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 9:51pm:


Whatever your original intentions for this forum were, or how people found their way here, it is what it is.

Astraghal wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 3:56am:


I supposed I'd have to care enough about it to read it again, which won't be happening.  Which item it was is inconsequential, but I'll stand corrected on that.

Wait a sec...

  Actually, the fact that it was what you mention as opposed to what I originally thought lowers my opinion of you further than I thought possible. 

Nonetheless; lowballing and unsuspecting new player and trying to hold them to it is clearly another flashing neon sign showing your lack of scruples and poor outlook.

Schmoe wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 11:45am:


In your grasping at straws attempt at semantics law, you just contradicted yourself you stupid tool.

So.....

Im confused now 

Is he a she pretending to be a he?

          or

Is she a he pretending to be a she?

          or

Is she a he thats pretending to be a he so she can claim he doesnt care what sex she is?


           or

Is this just some dude whose pussy got hurt so he pulls out the, "I dont care its the internet" card?

Strakeln wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 1:31am:


We both agree that it is what it is now, a forum that internet bullies use to coordinate their nasty agendas.

You have confirmed that the spirit of my orignal statement holds true, even if the wording was off.


Quikster wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 3:06am:


What the hell are you talking about?

Schmoe wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 11:45am:


Wait, is Astraghal the one that can't view the secret part of the forums where we run our secret bully meetings?

I get confused on this issue sometimes.

Astraghal wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 6:15am:

Yes

Astraghal wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 6:15am:

We both agree?  You keep trying to put words in my mouth.  Slow your roll, stop looking to be offended, and read what I am saying.  I often choose my words very deliberately.  I have agreed that "it is what it is", but I have not agreed with your assessment of what it is.

Astraghal wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 6:15am:

No, I've confirmed that you're entitled to your opinion of what it is today.

Look, Astra, I can see where you're coming from.  You're not well-liked here.  That's not a fun or reaffirming situation to be in.  What you fail to realize is that your reception here is entirely based on your own actions.  You posted a screenie of you possibly acting like a skeeze, but then failed to find any fault with your own behavior... something that comes across as a confirmation of skeezehood. 

Lots of people come to the Vault and do the same.  A few stop being stubborn and actually try to listen to what people are trying to tell them, and they become welcome members of the community (Chonas is a shining example.  Sure, we still give him a hard time, but I know many were truly disappointed that he had to take a break).  I do believe you're the first person who has outright refused to learn and yet still stuck around. 

So I can certainly see why you feel this is a forum for a big bullying clique... you're always getting beat on.  That's due to people giving up on trying to explain things to you, and have instead decided to continually treat you like shit in an effort to get you to disappear.  You are, without a doubt, being bullied.

...but it's still completely within your control.  I don't think you've gone beyond the point of no return.  It would require a fair deal of introspection and dealing with a whole lotta residual hate, but I think it's still far from impossible.  Yes, I know, you don't care... but you and I know that to some degree, you do.

Strakeln wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 7:51pm:


The reference to bullying wasn't so much with regards to myself. I've gotten off quite lightly compared to some and for the most part willingly brought it upon myself. But I'm big and ugly enough to handle it and to some degree I even enjoy it. So bring it the fuck on you pathetic little jackals.


But that's not the point.


The sad and ugly fact remains that this forum is full of bitter, nasty people looking to discredit and humiliate others for their own childish amusement. It reminds me of the highschools you see in those films about how highschool shootings happen. A lot of people here need to take a long hard look at themselves.


That's the point.

Astraghal wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 7:55pm:


I suppose you think it's unreasonable to expect that any community might have various groups of people who agree with one another?  Show me one community that doesn't have smaller groups within it.  Of course there will always be people who don't fit in.  I've found that usually the people who don't fit in are bitter and unhappy and revel in the role, but there are certainly exceptions.

Frankly, I think people here have treated you somewhat unfairly and refused to let you live down an incident you may or may not regret.  However, you've been more than happy to play along.

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There are some core people here who egg things on, but those aren't the only people here.


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I find it generally a mindless way to fill the time.  I think a better question might be, what are your involvement and aspirations here?