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Aug 23rd, 2010 at 10:55pm
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So, I noticed Eladrin has gone back into the shadows and MadFloyd has come forward. He is making all kinds of statements and apologies - but they aren't the usual lip service. I think he deserves some support on this.

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One unpopular stance I have is that their management has the blame in a lot of what is happening: They define the goals, prioritize the resources and measure the accomplishments.

We rarely see their top management come in here to address concerns, provide status on issues, and provide any sort of plan for the future. We never see any sort of feedback loop (polls that ask "would you like to see A or B" where we can see the results). It just seems like everything goes into a blackhole.

There were some large concerns about gaps:
How come bug reports are not making it to the correct Devs?
How come old bugs get put back into the code during updates?
Why are settings "forgotten" during reboots?
What the heck is happening in the middle of the night causing poor performance?
How come there isn't a true known issues / WAI (poor KommunityKobold)?
How come bugs reported on Lama (and Mournlands) are ignored - not saying they have to be patched, but they are not even acknowledged until numerous players complain about them?


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You raise good points/questions here.

Let me address the first and last ones, because they are effectively the same and the most frustrating to all involved.

The devs (and that includes me) have been puzzled why we'd release an update only to learn of disappointment that bug x had not been addressed, or to find that bug y was discovered on Lamannia and reported, yet we were unaware. something was very wrong. Recently we learned why.

For some amount of time (especially since the influx of players when we launched F2P), bugs reported from players had not been getting to the devs in a timely manner (or in some cases, not at all). They have not been lost, but rather have been accumulating at a pace that overwhelmed our QA staff. Not a good situation.

The QA team has since expanded in size and are diving into this bucket. They are faced with the unenviable job of validating each bug (you can imagine the quality of bug reports varies greatly) and the dev team is now receiving them. Our first challenge is identifying & prioritizing the most important bugs so that we can turn this situation around as quickly as possible.

We also need to keep the known issues list updated in hopes of avoiding duplicate bug reports that essentially slow down the QA process. Three or four reports of the same bug can be helpful, 50 reports of the same bug wastes a lot of time.

As for old bugs being re-introduced in a subsequent update, the reason this happens is purely human error. When we get close to an update, we 'branch off' a version of the game that is tested and readied for deployment to the live servers. When we find and fix a bug during that time, we must do so in both copies of the game. If we fail to do this properly, the bug is fixed for the current update, but not for the subsequent one. Things can get very hectic during this period and regrettably mistakes happen.

Setting lost when server reboots: I think this has only happened once (although I could be wrong). The DDO servers have multiple settings. Most are permanent and aren't affected by reboot, but recently we experimented with some temporary ones; the idea being that they would be made permament if we were 'happy' with them and I think that we had an issue with communication between departments (which we've hopefully rectified).
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 11:00pm
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Then, Junts said:
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I'd also like to add:

Is it possible that we could in some way get a "Is X working properly?" official communication channel? If possible, I'm sure it could help cut down on excessive bug reports for the QA team, by virtue of helping us figure out what should and shouldn't be reported.


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I think this is a great idea. I'll forward this along to Tolero.


As far as I am concerned, that took the wind out of our sails. We have been asking for this for years and not getting the cooperation from the Community Specialists.

Yet, I am going to support this effort by MadFloyd as I think he is on our side. I will have to periodically ask the status of this to Tolero.
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 11:11pm
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MadFloyd has seemed to grow some balls or a voice in the past couple days. Good on him. At least we are getting some sort of feed back to the community. I hope he keeps it up.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 1:35am
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I'm just hoping it isn't a case of "Good Cop, Bad Cop" to keep players from jetting.
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 4:30am
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Ashurr wrote on Aug 24th, 2010 at 1:35am:
I'm just hoping it isn't a case of "Good Cop, Bad Cop" to keep players from jetting.


I don't think it is. MadFloyd is a good guy IMO and deserves all the respect of the Community unlike some others of the Turbine team.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 6:33am
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I agree, Madfloyd deserves my respect and I will gladly help in promoting any support I can give him.
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 8:02am
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Most of their staff fail at life. Mad Floyd is not one of them. Flimsy Firewood also seems to have a clue.
  

                           

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Reply #7 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 8:06am
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Hi Welcome wrote on Aug 24th, 2010 at 8:02am:
Most of their staff fail at life. Mad Floyd is not one of them. Flimsy Firewood also seems to have a clue.


Agreed on both counts.
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 8:23am
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MadFloyd and FlimsyFirewood seem to remind me of Codog. Devs who take pride in their work and want to make things right.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 9:54am
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Flint wrote on Aug 24th, 2010 at 8:23am:
MadFloyd and FlimsyFirewood seem to remind me of Codog. Devs who take pride in their work and want to make things right.


Honestly, I think most, probably all, of the Turbine developers take pride in their work and want to make things right.  The dysfunction comes from the communication and management channels.
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 10:34am
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Schmoe wrote on Aug 24th, 2010 at 9:54am:
Honestly, I think most, probably all, of the Turbine developers take pride in their work and want to make things right.  The dysfunction comes from the communication and management channels.



True, but unfortunately the "work" Tarrant takes pride in is sucking dick and mugging for the Biggest Asshole of the Year Award.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 5:45pm
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Hi Welcome wrote on Aug 24th, 2010 at 8:02am:
Most of their staff fail at life. Mad Floyd is not one of them. Flimsy Firewood also seems to have a clue.


Agreed.

Mad's posts have always been different than the standard Turbine lines.  He tells it like he sees it.
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 27th, 2010 at 12:28am
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Tharlak wrote on Aug 24th, 2010 at 5:45pm:
Agreed.

Mad's posts have always been different than the standard Turbine lines.  He tells it like he sees it.


Which is probably why he so rarely posts. I believe. Keeper mentioned devs possibly getting fired for saying the 'wrong' thing. I hope Mad avoids this, and see a slight correlation between his better posts and periods of abscence (granted it also correlates with the community trying to blue ball him for things he isn't responsible for as well, and the whole correlation isn't causation rule blah blah blah)
  
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woody wrote on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 11:11pm:
MadFloyd has seemed to grow some balls or a voice in the past couple days. Good on him. At least we are getting some sort of feed back to the community. I hope he keeps it up.


i would wager that someone up top went to tell the bug team that their priority is to make this game good one and to start by fixing it. this someone probably also gave mad the authority to say stuff he deems fit
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 27th, 2010 at 8:54am
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Aranticus wrote on Aug 27th, 2010 at 8:01am:
i would wager that someone up top went to tell the bug team that their priority is to make this game good one and to start by fixing it. this someone probably also gave mad the authority to say stuff he deems fit


This seems to make sense with what Ink was saying in the rumors thread. If nothing else comes from WB in regards to DDO at least it appears they are trying to make a change in how the company interacts with the community as a whole instead of just the community using the DDO store.
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 9:18am
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Reply #16 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 10:40am
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Beak wrote on Aug 27th, 2010 at 12:28am:
Which is probably why he so rarely posts. I believe. Keeper mentioned devs possibly getting fired for saying the 'wrong' thing. I hope Mad avoids this, and see a slight correlation between his better posts and periods of abscence (granted it also correlates with the community trying to blue ball him for things he isn't responsible for as well, and the whole correlation isn't causation rule blah blah blah)


Well he could post rarely for any number of reasons, starting with being too busy actually working to post much. But yes that is a possibility. Most companies tend to shy away from the more candid, direct sorts. If I worked for them they'd fire me inside of a week. Cheesy
  

                           

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Reply #17 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 10:58am
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Follow that link and read it.  Happy times!
  

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That is a leap in the right direction.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 1:08pm
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·        A new recipe has been added to the Dragontouched Sovereign Altar to shatter a undesired Sovereign Rune into … something else.  Any Sovereign Rune can be placed in the Altar with one Draconic Rune to activate this recipe.  The Sovereign Rune will be destroyed, and Runes of some sort will be returned, but the recipe is unpredictable. Oh, and the runes are now identified. 


I want to have his babies.
  

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I want to have his babies.

Sex in exchange for crafting fixes, SWEET!  Sign me up.
  
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Reply #21 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 11:39am
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I like him rather a lot. He has always been civil to us, and actually seems to enjoy posting to us, rather than treat it like throwing bread to the plebs.

  

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Zwiebel wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 11:39am:
I like him rather a lot. He has always been civil to us, and actually seems to enjoy posting to us, rather than treat it like throwing bread to the plebs.



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Reply #23 - Aug 29th, 2010 at 12:55pm
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woody wrote on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 11:11pm:
MadFloyd has seemed to grow some balls or a voice in the past couple days. Good on him. At least we are getting some sort of feed back to the community. I hope he keeps it up.

Yeah that was about the most candid dev post since Codog, and a nice thing to see. Eladrin posts quite often (for a DDO developer) but is more like the A_D of the devs - all business.
  
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Ya I like Madfloyd as well. As I already mentioned on the other forums, he took the time once on Lamannia to help us out when we were having problems with Sir Pointsalot and getting stuff out of the DDO Store. I want to say it was even a weekend. He stuck around for at least an hour handing out Hearts of Wood to anyone who wanted them.

I thought he was a decent guy back then, but now seeing some of his posts on the forums and myDDO has made me like him even more.
  
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