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Reply #125 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 3:01pm
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HeavenlyCloud wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 2:37pm:
Bugging Arraetrikos was really stupid. And same could be said about the Instant Part 2 exploit that allowed you to chain lightning the crystal without killing the named mobs. That quest was beatable easy and people just chose to avoid those 2 fights.

Cheesy The only exploits i use are the ones that lessen the grind of acquiring items.


At the time it wasn't a gimme quest. I mean I can understand why people did it, but this was back in the days when part 4 was 50/50 and nobody had ever heard of a mineral 2.

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Reply #126 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 5:25pm
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Gornn wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 3:01pm:
At the time it wasn't a gimme quest. I mean I can understand why people did it, but this was back in the days when part 4 was 50/50 and nobody had ever heard of a mineral 2.

Fuck I feel old.

At that time, Part 4 was like....100% for the group Heavenly and I played with. PUGs had a slightly lower success rate, but definitely not 50/50.
  
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Reply #127 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 8:58pm
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Gornn wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 1:39pm:
I've never been a huge exploit guy. I Used to get annoyed when people tried to bug harry in part 4 with summon scrolls, and then later when you could bug him using that certain type of weapon whose name escapes me.

Wasn't a fan.


deception

yaztromo always uses deception on harry and in quests where he is a caster/healer, he demands people use it

right now tendon slice is the favor
  
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Reply #128 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:37pm
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Guys, if you want to hear what the dude has to offer, play by the rules he posted.

In case you don't remember: send him a description of a current exploit so that he knows you're not a dev, then do some information trading with him.  Meaning, give and take, don't just take.  He holds back his information so that he can gain more information.  I don't wanna take the wind out of his sails... he gave me a fair trade.

Remember, the biggest thing about exploits is taking what you know and figuring out how it might apply elsewhere.  So even talking about exploits that you think everyone knows can offer new insights.  For example, consider my post about standing in the VoN 5 door and HC's reaction to it.  That one can get you some mileage, too... can be applied all over the game.
  

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Reply #129 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 10:13pm
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Epoch wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 1:22pm:
We cheat at life to.  We are secretly drug lords making more money in a week then you will make in your entire life.  Now that you know, expect a visit from an underling, or three.


LOL.  I'll keep an eye out.   Cool
  
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Reply #130 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 10:27pm
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HeavenlyCloud wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 1:26pm:
What else is left to do with no high level content and when you are sick of farming?


Look, I understand some players have 20+ alts, all capped, and have run the game to exhaustion.   

But, if the game is not fun - because you have nothing left to do but complain or look for exploits (rather than find them by mistake) - then I think common sense says go find something fun to do with your free time.  Now, if you are saying that your 'fun' is griefing and finding exploits, then don't complain about it.
  
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Reply #131 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:16pm
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Strakeln wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:37pm:
Guys, if you want to hear what the dude has to offer, play by the rules he posted.

In case you don't remember: send him a description of a current exploit so that he knows you're not a dev, then do some information trading with him.  Meaning, give and take, don't just take.  He holds back his information so that he can gain more information.  I don't wanna take the wind out of his sails... he gave me a fair trade.

Remember, the biggest thing about exploits is taking what you know and figuring out how it might apply elsewhere.  So even talking about exploits that you think everyone knows can offer new insights.  For example, consider my post about standing in the VoN 5 door and HC's reaction to it.  That one can get you some mileage, too... can be applied all over the game.



My problem is all the exploits I know of currently have been fixed  :/

The door one is so old I am not sure it even counts as an exploit.... not like the devs ever tried that hard to fix it.
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Reply #132 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:27pm
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Hafeal wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 10:27pm:
Look, I understand some players have 20+ alts, all capped, and have run the game to exhaustion.   

But, if the game is not fun - because you have nothing left to do but complain or look for exploits (rather than find them by mistake) - then I think common sense says go find something fun to do with your free time.  Now, if you are saying that your 'fun' is griefing and finding exploits, then don't complain about it. 


Meh i only log in to the game to bullshit with my guildies and some people. That's kind of like a rule of My Little PWNY. Log in don't quest just bullshit with people you like.

Sometimes while bullshiting we are just running around talking to npc's and keep runing, that's how i found about the end reward and shared bank exploit.

And well i am not sorry to say this but half of my fun in-game is to grief people. I always get a laugh!
  
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Reply #133 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:28pm
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Strakeln wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:37pm:
Guys, if you want to hear what the dude has to offer, play by the rules he posted.

In case you don't remember: send him a description of a current exploit so that he knows you're not a dev, then do some information trading with him.  Meaning, give and take, don't just take.  He holds back his information so that he can gain more information.  I don't wanna take the wind out of his sails... he gave me a fair trade.

Remember, the biggest thing about exploits is taking what you know and figuring out how it might apply elsewhere.  So even talking about exploits that you think everyone knows can offer new insights.  For example, consider my post about standing in the VoN 5 door and HC's reaction to it.  That one can get you some mileage, too... can be applied all over the game.


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Reply #134 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 7:10am
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The /stuck exploit in Tempest Spine raid....not a huge exploit, but if your blown off the mountain, sure as hell beats hiking your way back up
  

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Reply #135 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 7:59am
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Chris79 wrote on Sep 16th, 2010 at 7:10am:
The /stuck exploit in Tempest Spine raid....not a huge exploit, but if your blown off the mountain, sure as hell beats hiking your way back up


Not really an exploit... the Dev knew this would happen which is why it is once a day.

Who knows though, my version of an exploit just might be a little different then a Dev.  Though, I fail to see how that can be since I am Dev.
  

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Reply #136 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 2:30pm
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Zaodan wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 12:57pm:
So if Turbine is gonna fucking ban people because their actions RESEMBLE exploits, then I FUCKING HAVE THE RIGHT to know about every exploit in the game so that I don't "accidentally" do something like it and risk getting banned.


I sympathize but I think the reason this forum exists is because we all have no Turbine rights, right? 

I mean, they are fair arbitrary in their dishing out of punishment, it seems, to the point that there's really no good feedback on stupid ideas posted on their forum.  I figure some day I'll get spanked for showing up here.  Whatever.  Life is short, not to worry.
  
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Reply #137 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 3:16pm
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Their policy is gameable in a way that can get you banned. So yeah.
  

                           

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Reply #138 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 4:52pm
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Flaming Sphere + Epic FTW.
  
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Reply #139 - Sep 17th, 2010 at 9:03am
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I sympathize but I think the reason this forum exists is because we all have no Turbine rights, right? 

I mean, they are fair arbitrary in their dishing out of punishment, it seems, to the point that there's really no good feedback on stupid ideas posted on their forum.  I figure some day I'll get spanked for showing up here.  Whatever.  Life is short, not to worry.



Lets separate the term "illegal" from "against the TOS of the game."

Exploits are never "illegal".  Cops are not going to show up and arrest you for ransacking an epic chest.

Against the TOS just means Turbine can ban you for doing it.  And there is no rule in the TOS that you agreed to whic says its a violation of the TOS to discuss exploits.  That rule exists SOLELY on the Turbine Forum.  It is not in the actual TOS at all.

So, its not a TOS violation to discuss exploits so long as the discussion isn't on the Turbine forums.  Hell, even if you discuss them on the Turbine forums, all that happens is you get infractions/bans from the Forum.  Your game account is never banned for DISCUSSIONS.  The only way your game account can get banned is if you PERFORM the exploit in-game.

Discussing = allowed.
Performing = not allowed.

Since this is not the Turbine Forums, we can discuss them all day, every day, with NO repercussions whatsoever from Turbine.
  
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Reply #140 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 12:21am
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stainer wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 10:29pm:
I don't know if this is an exploit, but when I want to do bloodstone runs I get a couple of hirelings. Check the chests, pop into the astrologer quest summon hireling, dismiss, exit. Explorer area reset.


A variation on this was actually posted by a Dev as a way to reset instances sometime last year.

While you probably don't have to worry about it being considered an exploit, we all know that the rules change over time... IE Infinite ADQ1 kills or Frost+Icy Burst with Risia Festival.
  
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Reply #141 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 1:02am
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Glenalth wrote on Sep 19th, 2010 at 12:21am:
we all know that the rules change over time... IE .... Frost+Icy Burst with Risia Festival.

Exactly what was it that changed about this?
Just because some people were too fucking stupid to READ THE FUCKING RECIPE doesn't mean that they suddenly "decided" to call this one an exploit.

And if you start crying about how they ripped you off and stole all of your plat from you because they removed the effect that you spent 2 mil plat on, I swear to god I'm going to find out where you live and hurt you.

Look, if you exploit and you get hit for it, dem's the breaks.
If you get away with it, awesome.  But if you get busted, don't come crying to the Vault.  With a very limited number of exceptions, we have no pity.

And for the record, I have a pair of ML8 +3 true law, frost, icy burst handwraps of pure good that last about 7-9 more levels before I toss them to an alt.
And I knew exactly what I was doing when I made them.
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Reply #142 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 1:34am
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Cale wrote on Sep 19th, 2010 at 1:02am:
Exactly what was it that changed about this?
Just because some people were too fucking stupid to READ THE FUCKING RECIPE doesn't mean that they suddenly "decided" to call this one an exploit.

And if you start crying about how they ripped you off and stole all of your plat from you because they removed the effect that you spent 2 mil plat on, I swear to god I'm going to find out where you live and hurt you.

Look, if you exploit and you get hit for it, dem's the breaks.
If you get away with it, awesome.  But if you get busted, don't come crying to the Vault.  With a very limited number of exceptions, we have no pity.

And for the record, I have a pair of ML8 +3 true law, frost, icy burst handwraps of pure good that last about 7-9 more levels before I toss them to an alt.
And I knew exactly what I was doing when I made them.


After it was discovered that it worked one of my guild mates asked a GM if this was kosher and they said that it was "working as intended". It's just a minor annoyance in the grand scheme of things, but it was an exploit that was fixed later.
  
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Reply #143 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 1:45am
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Glenalth wrote on Sep 19th, 2010 at 1:34am:
After it was discovered that it worked one of my guild mates asked a GM if this was kosher and they said that it was "working as intended". It's just a minor annoyance in the grand scheme of things, but it was an exploit that was fixed later.

First of all, GMs are idiots.  If you don't know this yet:
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Secondly, there was no need to ask a GM.  READ THE FUCKING RECIPE.  It said right on it, something to the effect of: "this effect can not be added to a weapon that already has a cold effect on it."
That means, once you add frost or icy burst.... guess what?.... IT HAS A COLD EFFECT ON IT!
If you added another, you circumvented an error in the game mechanics to your advantage: ie: exploit.

I have no sympathy for anyone that didn't understand this to begin with and then cried about it later.

As to the ADQ1 infinite kills:  The game changed when renown was introduced.  When the game changes, some of the rules for that game will change as well.

I'm not saying exploiting is evil, as I do it myself, but I know exactly what I'm doing at the time.  If I get clipped for it it was my own fault.
  

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Reply #144 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 10:37am
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I have always wondered how the old "tome chest" exploit worked in Litany. Was it some variation on holding the instance, or was there some way to get to the tower tops from inside the Orchard?
  

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Reply #145 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 12:00pm
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moorewr wrote on Sep 19th, 2010 at 10:37am:
I have always wondered how the old "tome chest" exploit worked in Litany. Was it some variation on holding the instance, or was there some way to get to the tower tops from inside the Orchard?

Just simple old instance holding.  Since the tower was in a different instance, you could leave one person in the quest, then regroup while everyone else was outside.  This caused the tower instance to reset.  Everyone groups back up, jumps into Litany, runs through, collects tome pages.

What's funny is that even with this exploit, it was still a significant grind to get all of the pages.  I think I did this for a week straight and never did get a full set.
  

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Thanks, Strakeln.

That was about what I guessed when they changed the chest location - and added a barrier. Barriers are Turbine's solution to everything.  Cheesy
  

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Reply #147 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 8:12pm
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moorewr wrote on Sep 19th, 2010 at 12:26pm:
Thanks, Strakeln.

That was about what I guessed when they changed the chest location - and added a barrier. Barriers are Turbine's solution to everything.  Cheesy

Actually the barrier was even there back then, and would have prevented the exploit if it worked properly.  However, the barrier was bugged and only spawned about half the time, so people would just run through to the point of completion with the black dragon and if the barrier came up, recall and try again until it bugged.
  
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Reply #148 - Sep 20th, 2010 at 12:31pm
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I want to know what kind of mouth breathing fuckwit would pay 2 mil plat for frost + icy burst. That doesn't even take two icy burst recipes to make when it worked. I don't remember if they erased it from items or not though.
  

                           

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Hi Welcome wrote on Sep 20th, 2010 at 12:31pm:
I want to know what kind of mouth breathing fuckwit would pay 2 mil plat for frost + icy burst. That doesn't even take two icy burst recipes to make when it worked. I don't remember if they erased it from items or not though.

When it was officially posted by a Dev that they extra effects would be removed, there was a thread crying about how the poster paid like 3 mil for a shtiload of icy burst kits, and risia crafted a fucking ridiculous number of weapons with frost and icy burst.
The rant was about how Turbine was "stealing millions of plat from [the poster's] account."  That was even the name of the thread, or some derivation thereof.
It created a huge noob bashing fest for the OP, with the vast majority of people mainly laughing their asses off that someone would spend that much on it to begin with.

Anytime someone brings up how they got "shafted" by the Devs removing the extra effects I'm reminded of this thread.
  

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