Quote:So when someone runs with one Helper's fucktard and come here saying they're blacklisting the entire guild, we all nod in agreement, but one someone does it to a guild with a better reputation, they're being heavy handed and oversensitive?
I would take Sisster as a healer any day of the week over some random no-name in a top guild. Have I raged at Helpertard's? OH DEFINITELY. But we had a guy in Ransack join a Shroud, wait till we filled and said, "Gonna get ship buffs, be right there." Stainer got the star and I'll let you figure out what happened from there.
If I ran with some gamer frat boy all hopped up on Red Bull and vodka and ready to date rape the altars in the Shroud that cried about buffs (btw, lol @ "I even typed out the buffs I didn't need!") the entire run, I would take his word that the guild leader was down with it.
There is a difference between Gawna saying "I ran with a helper fucktard, I'm blacklisting helpers" and Eightball saying "as a guild we have mad a decision that our entire guild is blacklisting helpers".
Same thing with me. I might decide not to run with a particular guild and no one's really gonna give a shit. But it's a bigger splash if Hordo or Emili announces it as a guild policy.
That's where I was going. Maybe I'm wrong on that.
Also, the number of people nodding was due to them having similar experiences with Helper's members at the time. When you tell a story to 50 people who all had a similar experience, you get heads nodding. I can't remember an instance where a Ransack player jacked up a raid I was in. You tell a Ransack player story and you only get couple with smiliar experiences. The rest are scratching their heads, not nodding. Thats the other part of the difference.
Please note as well, that I never said I had an issue with Helper's Guild. I'm happy to see Sisster and many other helpers in raids and epics.
I'm also not saying that having a good guild tag under your name means you are automatically not a jerk. it certainly affects the probability that you know what you are doing and are properly geared, but it isn't 100% nor does it speak to personality. Some of the best players in the best guilds are not terribly fun to run with. (Nice way of saying they are assholes).