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Reply #2775 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 12:14pm
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whatshisface wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 12:10am:
for what reason?

He explained my reasoning properly.
1 > 100 > 99-2
I don't expect others to follow the same scenario, if I put something up for roll and someone rolls a 1, they automatically win it.
  

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Reply #2776 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 8:49pm
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You are so fucking stupid, it literally physically hurts.

Sounds like a personal problem that I dont want to hear. Good day  Smiley
  
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Reply #2777 - Nov 6th, 2011 at 11:21am
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Beol wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 8:49pm:
Sounds like a personal problem that I dont want to hear. Good day  Smiley



You were in PvP the other night while I was on my fighter, Unshakable.  I think you even tried to hit me  Sad
  
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Reply #2778 - Nov 6th, 2011 at 12:18pm
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Wash wrote on Nov 4th, 2011 at 10:35pm:
Your wish just so happens to be my command.

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Torc dropped on that run, nice!

Here's an interesting snippet...  That Rellanor guy, in case you haven't noticed, is a rather poor caster.  I recall Hoglrusk standing out there while I was running in another group doing DQ1-2.  He was in that group. 

Yeah, lost on the way to dq1, then gets in and dies Shocked on casual to the mobs.  Blames lag Roll Eyes  it's freaking normal.  But what irritated me was him dying immediately on DQ2.  Actually, the whole party about drove me up the wall.  Fvs with one mass heal spell but capped pureclass.  Paladin that knew *everything* but most of all Rellanor.  Because how do you freakin' die on a PM capped wizzy in that raid on Elite?  I didn't think it was possible. 

I ended up dropping and running halfdeadd through part 2 solo.  Cost me one major, which was better than the aggrivation from the increased scaling those dipshits brought with them.

Anyway, his behavior for your run comes as no suprise.


ETA: Sorry, was a normal/elite run.  I need more coffee.
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Reply #2779 - Nov 6th, 2011 at 2:20pm
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I didn't notice his casting. There had been no issues at all, up until the cryfest at the end chest. I don't know if he figured we owed him that torc, or that we should distribute stuff on a need-the-most-basis. But he was surely nerdraging back in mom's basement. And I don't blame him. It's rough when everybody is out to get you and you alone.
  

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Reply #2780 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 11:00am
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Beol may not be great at punctuation, but I was in that run where Orlenn dropped group after part I before we got to party II.  He was a total douche.  He was not healing in part I at all.  Beol announced he was out of mana and had chugged two pots with the judge at 10%.  The guy had probably 1100 mana at that point.  Finishing off the jailor, I got down to 150 hp on my blitz build before Beol chugged another pot and started healing.  At the end of round one, Beol had chugged 3 pots and this guy was still at 900 mana.  Totally inexcusable.  When called out he completely bailed.  I'm not sure what the point of him joining the group was if he had no intention of healing it.

Beol went on to solo heal part 2 and 3 and we got a completion.  We didn't drop suulu, but a completion and the horoth chest was better than a wipe.
  
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Reply #2781 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:11pm
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i think orlen has already been mentioned in this thread before now. multiple times while on his arcane. looting madstone boots after asking if anyone wanted to buy them etc. and just being all around terrible.
  
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Reply #2782 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:16pm
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I believe I have run with Rellanor this weekend in Mindsunder.  Did a normal run where he was asked to kite the final room.  Just as the other 5 of us made it to the Crystal, he died... I ended up kiting the room. 

Before the quest he kept talking about how good Nightmare was and how everyone should be using it...  Including the TWF spec'd.  Then went on about needing a Force Rahl's Might and how if anyone pulls it he wants it.  He also went on to say that he is a PM but won't take form because Clerics won't heal him... Of course I won't heal a PM.  1) Generally they can keep themselves up.  2) Because I harm PMs in a pinch, it works better .

Party leader dismissed him after this run.

Couple notes I did learn:  I believe he is around 16 years old, so still lacks the social skills necessary.  At that age many believe they are the bomb (of course that's not age specific, but at 16 have not had enough life experiences to show them they are not).

What he needs is someone to teach him - Maybe someone in his Guild Leadership...
  
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Reply #2783 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:28pm
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Enoach wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:16pm:
I believe I have run with Rellanor this weekend in Mindsunder.  Did a normal run where he was asked to kite the final room.  Just as the other 5 of us made it to the Crystal, he died... I ended up kiting the room. 

Before the quest he kept talking about how good Nightmare was and how everyone should be using it...  Including the TWF spec'd.  Then went on about needing a Force Rahl's Might and how if anyone pulls it he wants it.  He also went on to say that he is a PM but won't take form because Clerics won't heal him... Of course I won't heal a PM.  1) Generally they can keep themselves up.  2) Because I harm PMs in a pinch, it works better .

Party leader dismissed him after this run.

Couple notes I did learn:  I believe he is around 16 years old, so still lacks the social skills necessary.  At that age many believe they are the bomb (of course that's not age specific, but at 16 have not had enough life experiences to show them they are not).

What he needs is someone to teach him - Maybe someone in his Guild Leadership...


Thanks for pointing out the age thing.  I hadn't considered that option.  He sounded like an adult to me at the time.  One can't be sure about these things though.

Kid fail is totally different.  I'll surely reconsider my position on him. 
  
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Reply #2784 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:44pm
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Asheras wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 11:00am:
Beol may not be great at punctuation, but I was in that run where Orlenn dropped group after part I before we got to party II.  He was a total douche.  He was not healing in part I at all.  Beol announced he was out of mana and had chugged two pots with the judge at 10%.  The guy had probably 1100 mana at that point.  Finishing off the jailor, I got down to 150 hp on my blitz build before Beol chugged another pot and started healing.  At the end of round one, Beol had chugged 3 pots and this guy was still at 900 mana.  Totally inexcusable.  When called out he completely bailed.  I'm not sure what the point of him joining the group was if he had no intention of healing it.

Beol went on to solo heal part 2 and 3 and we got a completion.  We didn't drop suulu, but a completion and the horoth chest was better than a wipe.

No offense, but if you need 3 pots to solo heal part 1, you are the one doing it wrong.  Mass heal/radiant burst on the party and scroll heal folks who missed it due to curses.  I don't know about Orlenn, but it could have been that he was just better at conserving SP. 

I do know it sucks to be accused of not healing when you still have 3/4th of your blue bar and the other healer is already starting to chug pots, because he spammed heightened maximized double empowered mass cures like a dumbass. 

I also have some interesting screenshots of beol which I will probably post later.
  
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Reply #2785 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:52pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:44pm:
No offense, but if you need 3 pots to solo heal part 1, you are the one doing it wrong.  Mass heal/radiant burst on the party and scroll heal folks who missed it due to curses.  I don't know about Orlenn, but it could have been that he was just better at conserving SP. 


I think you are insinuating that the cleric should be right in the middle of the battle with the Judge. While I am pretty sure that I could do that on my cleric, Stainer, I think that is a stupid idea. It puts you in the position to get cursed and also subjects you to getting thrown all over hell and back by his wing buffets. That seems like an idiotic thing to do. A smart player would stand out of the way and use his/her mana to heal. I would have no problem using aura/burst during the Jailor clean up. I would probably kill Asheras as quickly as I could though.
  

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Reply #2786 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:57pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:52pm:
I think you are insinuating that the cleric should be right in the middle of the battle with the Judge. While I am pretty sure that I could do that on my cleric, Stainer, I think that is a stupid idea. It puts you in the position to get cursed and also subjects you to getting thrown all over hell and back by his wing buffets. That seems like an idiotic thing to do. A smart player would stand out of the way and use his/her mana to heal. I would have no problem using aura/burst during the Jailor clean up. I would probably kill Asheras as quickly as I could though.



What a nice way of telling AtomicMew he's a fucking idiot who has obviously never healed a ToD and should STFU while DIAF.
  

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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #2787 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:58pm
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Eladiun wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:57pm:
What a nice way of telling AtomicMew he's a fucking idiot who has obviously never healed a ToD and should STFU while DIAF.


This is the kinder and gentler stainer.
  

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Reply #2788 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 1:03pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:44pm:
scroll heal folks who missed it due to curses


This also is dumb. They need to remove curses faster or die. In fact I say this during to ToD's I am in, "Remove your curse or die, either way I dont care". Melees need quick reflexes. This is how I separate the mana wasters, from the mana savers.
  

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Reply #2789 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 1:07pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 1:03pm:
This also is dumb. They need to remove curses faster or die. In fact I say this during to ToD's I am in, "Remove your curse or die, either way I dont care". Melees need quick reflexes. This is how I separate the mana wasters, from the mana savers.



That's right suckas!

The only scroll Stainer uses in ToD is Word of Recall... Cheesy
  

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Reply #2790 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 1:12pm
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Actually with the bump to the DC on terror, it's worth using. in eDA that sucker goes off a lot, especially with the imp sunders being tossed around in there.

Probably not on a TWFer, but it's working better than the old vorpals used to. Mostly because it procs on crits, not just 20s
  
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Reply #2791 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 1:57pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:58pm:
This is the kinder and gentler stainer.


No worries, the rest of it is kind of implied.  Wink
  

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Reply #2792 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 4:52pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:52pm:
I think you are insinuating that the cleric should be right in the middle of the battle with the Judge. While I am pretty sure that I could do that on my cleric, Stainer, I think that is a stupid idea. It puts you in the position to get cursed and also subjects you to getting thrown all over hell and back by his wing buffets. That seems like an idiotic thing to do. A smart player would stand out of the way and use his/her mana to heal. I would have no problem using aura/burst during the Jailor clean up. I would probably kill Asheras as quickly as I could though.


A cleric with decent HP and either torc/melee skills should be in melee with the judge.  Who cares if you get buffeted around, even in hard the bosses don't hit hard enough that a quick reflexed cleric cant hit someone with a heal. Plus being in combat means you can center your heals on yourself, allowing for dp/w/e else on the boss. Oh yea, and free aura healing.

It works better with fvs because they can wing back quickly, but clerics should be in the middle of the fight as well unless they're bad players.
  
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Reply #2793 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 4:56pm
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Rastelin wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 4:52pm:
A cleric with decent HP and either torc/melee skills should be in melee with the judge.  Who cares if you get buffeted around, even in hard the bosses don't hit hard enough that a quick reflexed cleric cant hit someone with a heal. Plus being in combat means you can center your heals on yourself, allowing for dp/w/e else on the boss. Oh yea, and free aura healing.

It works better with fvs because they can wing back quickly, but clerics should be in the middle of the fight as well unless they're bad players.


A fucking cleric tard in your guild jumped my shit for doing that on my WF Melee FvS. MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND RANSACK.
  

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Rastelin wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 4:52pm:
clerics should be in the middle of the fight as well unless they're bad players.


Bullshit.

I do better standing away on my cleric. I can heal an elite run with mana, and I have no fucking dps skills what so ever. WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THE 32 POINTS YOU GET FROM MY FUCKING AURA DOING FOR YOU WHEN I AM RUNNING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FUCKING QUEST ON MY FAT DORF LEGS.
  

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stainer wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 5:01pm:
Bullshit.

I do better standing away on my cleric. I can heal an elite run with mana, and I have no fucking dps skills what so ever. WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THE 32 POINTS YOU GET FROM MY FUCKING AURA DOING FOR YOU WHEN I AM RUNNING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FUCKING QUEST ON MY FAT DORF LEGS.


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REROLL STAINER INTO SOMETHING USEFUL FFS! FVS ARE JUST BETTER!

Just kidding about that... but not really......

Elite is different, I agree. But if you can handle an elite run with just mana, you can DP. Maybe its just because I always have mouselook on, but I have a hard time using DP efficiently while not centering heals on myself.

The 32 points helps people who get cursed right before the hjealer throws a heal. On my lowish HP rogue (450) I know any bit of healing helps with that.
  
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Reply #2796 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 5:31pm
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Rastelin wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 5:05pm:
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Just kidding about that... but not really......

Elite is different, I agree. But if you can handle an elite run with just mana, you can DP. Maybe its just because I always have mouselook on, but I have a hard time using DP efficiently while not centering heals on myself.

The 32 points helps people who get cursed right before the hjealer throws a heal. On my lowish HP rogue (450) I know any bit of healing helps with that.


I have 2 FvS and 1 cleric. I agree the FvS are significantly  better than a cleric, except for DI. That spell is handy in 3 or 4 places in the entire game, so it is worth dedicating a character spot to. Just kidding my cleric will be a wiz some day. I have a list of characters to TR.
  

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Reply #2797 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 5:34pm
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hmmm, what is the best approach?

1.  Being in melee range smacking on the Judge with melee weapon(s) in hand
2.  Standing away at a spot where you can heal both Judge Party and Jailer Tank

I think the answer is in the Build and Party Make-up (other Player skills included).  And one is not a bad player if one chooses not to take damage or risk death.  In fact one can be considered a good player for using the appropriate tactic.

As one that has had to Solo Heal both Judge group and Jailer Tank, option 2 works best when that scenario occurs.  I've also been in groups where the DPS of the Melee was less then stellar and then option 1 works best.

There does come a point though where the Cleric regardless of which option being used, needs to also employ DP, if for nothing else but to increase the DPS further.

The true telling of a great cleric is knowing when to employ the appropriate option, and then be able to adapt if things change.

  
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Reply #2798 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 5:37pm
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Enoach wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 5:34pm:
needs to also employ DP, if for nothing else but to increase the DPS further.


If I deploy DP at 50% I have agro of that son of a bitch before it dies.
  

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Reply #2799 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 5:38pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 5:37pm:
If I deploy DP at 50% I have agro of that son of a bitch before it dies.



I hear Gawna likes DP...oh, wait...that's different... Roll Eyes
  

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