Alekx wrote on Nov 22
nd, 2010 at 5:11pm:
45 is standard for pugs bro, 25 for raid channel / solid guilds
Meh. Don't really agree with that. After 30 mins, I'm thinking there are probably 3 or 4 people here that shouldn't be running shroud.
45 mins is everyone getting after each part:
resist acid, fire, sonic, elec and cold
blur
displacement
melfork's
camo
shield of faith
etc
etc
etc.....
rolling on shards, people starting to craft
etc
etc
etc.....
with a bunch of people that shouldn't still be in the shroud.
I haven't seen 45 min runs in months, until as of late. I saw a wipe for the 1st time in forever 2 weeks ago, with the FvS who's MCSW was hitting for 75-80, and he wasn't even a melee FvS. I mean, the shroud hasn't been end game content for what, 2 years?
You only need FoM and fire resist for pt 4 and 5. Songs, haste and rage are a bonus. Why is everyone hung up on making sure there are full compliments of buffs, then waiting on the arcanes to roll around in the puddles for 3 mins to get sp back? If the guy who puts a raid together can't lead/doesn't know this, like I said, don't be a whiny bitch cause you don't know how to give direction, throwing out threats, etc. I'm already in a bad mood for wasting my time.
So, if I may say, 25 is standard for pugs, under 20 for raid channel. Don't believe me, send me a tell sometime. We'll get a speed run in Alexk.