Infidel wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 4:30am:


For certain members of the Helper's Guild, yes apparently.

flynnjsw wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:31pm:


Was he shooting a bow?

flynnjsw wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:31pm:



I just checked the roster, don't seem him in the guild.

dunno

Asketes wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 2:38am:


I kind of wish I had gotten a screenshot at the end. I was thinking about it, but never did. It is distinctly possible that I spelled his name wrong.

Eladiun wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 2:59pm:


It was a heavy armor wearing tempest. The only one pew pew pewing was the wizard.

Eladiun wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 3:10pm:


Yeah, I never even noticed the armor until the first time I had to throw a raise at the person. At that point it was the first thing I noticed.

Steelrock wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 4:57pm:



45 is standard for pugs bro, 25 for raid channel / solid guilds

Alekx wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 5:11pm:


Meh. Don't really agree with that. After 30 mins, I'm thinking there are probably 3 or 4 people here that shouldn't be running shroud.

45 mins is everyone getting after each part:

resist acid, fire, sonic, elec and cold
blur
displacement
melfork's
camo
shield of faith
etc
etc
etc.....

rolling on shards, people starting to craft
etc
etc
etc.....

with a bunch of people that shouldn't still be in the shroud.


I haven't seen 45 min runs in months, until as of late. I saw a wipe for the 1st time in forever 2 weeks ago, with the FvS who's MCSW was hitting for 75-80, and he wasn't even a melee FvS. I mean, the shroud hasn't been end game content for what, 2 years?

You only need FoM and fire resist for pt 4 and 5. Songs, haste and rage are a bonus. Why is everyone hung up on making sure there are full compliments of buffs, then waiting on the arcanes to roll around in the puddles for 3 mins to get sp back? If the guy who puts a raid together can't lead/doesn't know this, like I said, don't be a whiny bitch cause you don't know how to give direction, throwing out threats, etc. I'm already in a bad mood for wasting my time.

So, if I may say, 25 is standard for pugs, under 20 for raid channel. Don't believe me, send me a tell sometime. We'll get a speed run in Alexk.

Steelrock wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2010 at 7:24am:


Who the fuck are you again?  Maybe I just don't take any random cuntface's word over a guildie that I have run with multiple times.

"I never thought I would hear a grown man carry on like a butt hurt 14 YO girl playing DDO. I heard it tonight. And most of the whining was because of his own shortcomings in the raid. The worst 45 minutes of my night. "

Sounds to me like you had a falling out in the party and you are the little bitch who is all butthurt.  I gave you a solution , now, GFY.

You're right, you win.

Steelrock wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2010 at 7:15am:


These days my perception of a really PUG run means you grab anything that clicks on the lfm. Literally anything, regardless of class split or gear. Granted, there are certain "builds" that should be outright discriminated as they make the game shittier for all of us.

Meh, whatever, I havent given a crap about Shroud since I finished all my gear about a year ago.

This thread pisses me off 39 pages and none of my characters are mentioned once. All of you can GFY.  

Alekx wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2010 at 7:41pm:


Yeah, but even if your gear is finished, Shroud is still the best loot run in the game.  1-2 larges in 30 min?  Plus 10 chests total?  An easy 200k plat per run of AH/Vendor loot.  Run a couple times a week and never have to farm relics, epic scrolls, boot ingredients, dragon scales, etc.  Just use your shroud booty to trade and buy on the AH. Also great to have as stack of large scales laying around in quest.  Seal of the X drops and you been looking for it?  Offer 3 large scales on the spot.

Shroud loot runs make the rest of your gear grinding that much faster.

Plus the 20th run is only a collection of +2 and +3 tomes and a cleansing stone.  It's the best chance to get that +3 tome you've been looking for.