Aranticus wrote on Oct 19
th, 2010 at 10:43am:
Rockbraker, L10 as of the time I partied few days back. Helpers guild, TR toon no remove curse, remove blindness, lesser restore. Kept asking for them throughout tempest when at the beginning was braging about how good he is, how uber Helpers is. At the beginning, things went well but when a new monk player overtook his kills, he zerged up and at the room with the steps pulled too much agro he can't handle and died
Everytime I think Helpers is beginning to show promise, examples like that just throw all that optimism into the drain. I seriously wonder if you are true in your request for us to highlight players after seeing this bravado
You have to admit despite how scaredycat (or Mel) worded her post, woody's response was more reconciliatory and genuine. Perhaps it's the pressure but I wouldn't know. I generally avoid Helpers at this point coz it can suck the fun out of the game
You're my boy, blue! Leave him dead... don't fix his ailments. The burned hand teaches best. Besides, if living up to your standards was a requirement to play on Khyber there would be 6 people circle jerking in the marketplace. Your big complaint is someone zerging and dying in Tempest Shrine who didn't have pots. Well fuck, let me see how many of those I can find on Khyber. Seriously tho, I will address these types as I see them when it happens in a group I am in. Most of our officers are doing this. I'm not hunting down a guy who had no pots for a sit down. If they are a greifer or a dick that's a different story...
Bravado, nah, sick of hearing shit is more like it. I'm fed up with it. So, yeah, I've reached the point were I have a lot of fuck off in me as Woody said. Maybe I'm spending too much time in Teamspeak bitching about you all...and the constant whining and jealousy. Laughing when your guildies offer 500k plat in trade channel and in LFMs to use our Altars.
Since my definition of progress is different then yours, let me clarify.
Do we still have newbs and casual players? Yes.
Will every player meet the Aranticus seal of approval? No
As for progress, let me tell a little story...
Our first guild Shroud back in May was a wipe on Part 3. It was a miserable failure and the next few not much better. Our other raids were pretty pathetic too. Fast-forward to today, on Shroud, Hound, VoD raid nights we generally have 2 full raid parties sometimes 3, one running Hard or Elite and one running normal. We are running full guild ToDs on ToD night and pugging a few spots when running it on the off nights on alts (a couple more booted characters and that's full too). I know these aren't awesome server wide accomplishments and I'm not looking for a gold star or a pat on the back. To me they are however a sign of progress and growth... Not every guild can start by splintering from an existing guild and be loaded with vets. Our newbs from then are now vets and are vets our getting better gear and knowledge.
Growth and Progress. I'm not looking to change hearts and minds anymore. It's way too much work and I have enough on my plate besides I don't have to. You can take us or leave us because as I said we really don't need you. If we post a raid with an open spot, you can join, have a good time, complete, and if you're lucky win a roll/get a pull (ask the Wizzy from Foecleaver who got his Rahkir's ring last night on a roll how much we suck) or you can pass and wait for your pug to fill. Every day vets from all the guilds represented here come and look to join us and be a part of what we have going on. We have an environment where you can play, have successful completions, and most importantly have fun. This game isn't a job for us. Players who are sick of pugging or having to fill from channel, players who are sick of being excluded from guild raids in their own guilds, players who are sick of asking for help in guild chat and being ignored, players who are sick of not having fun... every day more and more of your vets ask to join us. Every day we get better...
My point is simple. Run with us or don't run with us. We will be just fine without you. So, in it's simplest form I guess I am saying GFY.
BTW, I have a question for you Aranticus... If your guild is so fucking great, why are you always pugging?