Genuine questions (I know, I know: controversial)

1. Given the dearth of quests above L10, can anyone suggest a running order to maximise XP/useful loot gains? Noting that running solo with a hireling may well be my only option a lot of the time.

2. On top of that, Is it possible to do it without huge numbers of Shroud runs? I'm not in a large guild, am not a fan of raids generally, and greensteel crafting just sounds like an unjenjoyable, complicated grindfest to me.

Note - if the answer to '1.' necessarily involves multiple shroud runs, feel free to discount '2.'!

Oh, and yes. I'm a newb. Possibly also a n00b. and I haven't been Hi Welcome-ed yet. This is unacceptable. I deserve hate at least as much as the next person. I'm lookin' at you, thechemicals, may-you-never-show-your-face-again.

*ah......*

That's better. Better'n a handjob from a hooker with Parkinsons and a fur glove.

Now answer the question, you douche. 

Not entirely sure what advice your looking for OP.

Do you want to get from L10 to L20 the "fastest" way possible?

Do you want to do it potentially getting lots of named loot on the way?

Theres SOOOOO many quests between those levels the loot thing is almost impossible to answer unless your more specific about what class your equipping. Otherwise this will just be a list of ALL named loot in quests above level 10.

If your just talking about farming xp to level asap then....

At level 10 you can still get xp from the shadow lord quest, can farm that for all its worth.... better xp if you can do traps.

Chamber of raiyum is good xp, again great if you can do the traps.

All of the GH walk ups can be run quite quickly and got pretty good xp.

Vale quests.... not sure about farming these for xp, will really depend on your char.

Basically..... its hard to answer unless we know what your running and what your capable of.

Another option is explorers and rares. get the explorers as soon as you get access to a wilderness, they are usually worth a nice amount and you will get 100 or 2 kills on the way too.

Farming orchard for kills, especially with an arcane, is quite quick and gives alot of xp... but again, does your char have FW?

One thing i can say though. If you choose to not run the shroud, or any other quests for that matter you can still reach cap easily enough.

TL:DR

give us some more details, build, your experiance etc. solo running can be alot slower then grouping if your going blind into quests.

Ill reply more fully later if no one else does but for the moment with a quick browse I would say, a couple of things.

What race is your wiz rog? if he has self healing, ideally WF, then thats the kiddie IMO to be soloing quests with.

The others are fine im sure but the wiz split gives great versitility and as such will allow you room for manouver when finding your way around new quests.

a wiz rogue can solo round orchard at level 10.... but you have to prepare for each rare and know how your going to deal with it and who to avoid. At that level i tend to avoid parse, the golem dude, for example.

The beholder can spawn in two spots, one down the cliffs one further up. If he is in the lower spot give him a wide berth, go to the cliffs ontop, cast FW at him then run away. He will sit there and burn while you check the cave above for the other rare.

Thats just an example really but yea, at that level you cant just barrel into the named.

Persoanlly i dont run tempest spine very often. I have with some chars but I tend to find it just a hassle raid.

Restless isles i will hold my hands up and say I cant really advise. I dont run that area and since i went premium i didnt even buy the pack.

Dont forget, when you solo do quests lower level then you. 1-2 levels is fine for xp, as im sure you know, and will make it easier. running at level is fine for some quests but for others will just increase the workload and resources used to the point where I wouldnt bother.

You wiz, he has still got a few pit runs in him yet. 10K plus per run.

If you dont like the pit, i can understand why but get someone to walk you through it. Once shown its a much better run and good to farm.

Xp to time ratio is tricky for me to say as most of the charts that ive seen use the stand point of, invis, avoid everything and PROPER ZERG.

I play quite quickly but im probably a bit short of a full on zerger.

I will log in this evening and if you PM me on argo to Loftie I will send you over some plat.

I got a couple of chars on there but I dont really run on that server. If im in level, i cant remember what level loftie is right now, then im more then happy to show you round a couple of places.

What i tend to do when im soloing a new quest is to have a read on doowiki. get an idea of what you will encounter etc.

Loot wise... Personnally i tend to not really equip my chars properly until level 16... I get fed up re equipping every few days but thats coz im lazy so, proper advice....

Just make sure you got you 100% fort. Try to build up you stack of resist pots where nessecery. As you already said, eles, blindness, diease, curse etc.

Try and get some good weapons but dont constrain yourself too much.

I like high + holy something weapons. I think they go a long way.

I know you said you didnt like the orchard 2 quests, and i can see your point but really you want to try and run shadow lord for xp. It is very good. Just that one, dont worry bout the rest if your not going to do crypt 2 and 3 then you dont need the 4 associated tombs.

Remember FW does double damage to undead. your arcane will find this a cake walk at +1 level. norm hard elite.

Im at work atm, and waffled a bit more then expected there but as i say ill have another look at this later. Im sure others can advise better then me.

For loot....

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=121279

Thats your best bet. decide what you want then decide if you can be bothered to farm that location

As i say, i tend to rush to 16 then start thinking bout end game equipment. I.e which slots will be perm for my stat items....

You will want the minos legends as soon as you reach level 11. you need 20 taps from the orchard rares chest. It gives 100% fort ans 20 HP that stack.

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


no, human, sorry!

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


Fair enough, when my wiz rogue gets L5 spells I'll give it a whirl.

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aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


I don't know if I like the pit, I've never done it. I took one look at the map the quest giver hands out and resolved I wasn't going anywhere near the place till I had a guide!

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


yeah, zerging content I've not done before is really not my thing.

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


two things:

First, I won't be on tonight so please don't log on just for me! Maybe tomorrow night, noting that I'm UK evenings, which are 5hrs ahead of EST (if its 8pm here, then its 3pm there).

Second... how do I put this... uhmm.... I really appreciate the offer, really I do, but I didn't post this to beg for money. My lack of plat is certainly an issue, but frankly that's as it should be till I've got myself a high level char. Its bad enough that my play skills are so feeble without me taking handouts on top - but it is a very generous offer, thanks for making it. Advice and an in-game guide are really appreciated if they're available, but I'd rather not level up due to free loot and cash - there needs to be SOME element of this that I've achieved myself.

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


I do much the same. its doing that (and looking at Lost Leader's guides) that has led me to go 'nope, too hard. nope, needs more than one person. nope, needs x gear that i don't have. Nope, will need more hitpoints...'.

I know. I'm a 'fraidy cat. I wonder how many more excuses for being a whiney whiner I can come up with...

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


every few days??? I level up every couple of weeks.

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


I try. Lordy do I try.

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


Yep. Weaponry I don't seem to have much of a problem getting hold of for some reason. Its equipment that kills me.

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:

*sigh* PuGs it is then.

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


hey, its all useful, thanks!

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


Yep, I do try to refer to that, but then I start getting into impossible slot juggling, and necro-hate...

aurora1979 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 10:35am:


I know about the minos legends, but 20 taps is NOT easy to come by without a full group as far as I can tell. My static group spent maybe six 2 hour play sessions and managed to clear Orchard maybe twice (never in one session, so its not like the zone was truly 'clear', but we covered all the ground is what I mean - we don't have an arcane, that's probably what takes so long), and we got maybe 2/3rds of the rares, who dropped taps for one or other of us maybe 50% of the time. So between us we've got maybe 7 taps each at this point, are now bored with orchard wilderness and have started on Restless Isles for variety. If that pattern holds for my other toons then I just won't bother unless I spot a PuG doing clears - out of interest is Minos Legends BTA or BTC?

If that Adamantine Ore hand in wasn't bugged, that's what I'd be doing for my Heavy Fort item, even if it does mean doing without the extra HPs.

Ashurr wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 11:01am:


I'm English. We hated the French long before some thumbless inbred American draft dodger made the 'cheese eating surrender monkeys' thing famous, so I'll be the judge of what French words to use, you poor excuse for an immortal elf! Sae raetar!

in that capacity, I hereby resolve not to use Douche anymore, because it is French and therefore Wrong. You cocksucker.

woody wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 11:11am:


According to the latest release notes/known issues, the collector will take your ore and given you nothing, nada, rien de rien (shut up Ashurr! Its one of my favourite Frenchisms is that. I was able to make it maybe the second question I innocently asked of my French exchange student's parents all those years ago - I knew full well that it means, lit., 'nothing and nothing' but in context it actually means "fuck all". Their faces were amazing as they struggled not to show the poor little English boy how much I'd offended them. So I'm going to damn well use it. Pthththtpt.)

However, clearly its not as broken as all that. So maybe I'll give it a go.

Edit: I forgot to add re that french thing. That is the same trip I pulled the wrong lever on the coach toilet and dumped the septic tank all over the street in Paris. As the only person here to dump literally a coachload of shit all over the French capital city, I reckon that probably qualifies me as the official French baiter of these forums. So watch it, merde-face.

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American, not a New Zealander.

The bug on the Adamantine Ore turn in is this.

He tells you if you bring back the first item you got from him, plus enough ore, you can get another item (essentially trade the item you have for a different one), however, in this case, he takes your ore, and doesn't give you another item.  Which is too bad, since I like to get the Gorget at 9, but would trade it after I get Minos....

Anyway, sorry I'm being helpful, but you can still get your first item from the smith, no problem.

stainer wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 11:22am:

You're confusing sheep and goats. As a kiwi friend of mine would always say: New Zealand - where the men are men, and the sheep are frightened.

stainer wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 11:22am:

Kiwis are sheepfuckers.  Goatfuckers are generally Afghani, Pakistani, Iranian, and Armenian.

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Heh, welcome aboard Ass-as-big-as-a-mountain Shadow.