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Sep 2nd, 2010 at 5:29am
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I am really focusing on gearing out my WF FVS.  ANd I will be TRing him very soon.  Oh he is melee specced...

Here are my Feats

Addy Body
Toughness
Quicken
Extend
Empower Heal
Power Attack
Improved Crit Slashing

I have read a ton of posts on the "regular" forums...

I have started reading these forums...I am seeing a shit-ton of great players and people I respect here.

Anyway, a little help?

For Weapons

ESoS (SoS until 20)
Lightning Strike GSW
Min 2 GSW
Triple Pos Maul
Sup Potency 1 handed weapon to pair with Lorriks SHield
Storm for ranged attacks (lol)


Well the weapons are easy...its this next part that had me worried...

I am having trouble deciding where to put my second greensteel item...and what should I shoot for?  I am coming into all kinds of problems/conflicts with slots

Current notable gear...

Head:
Minos

Goggles:
Tharne's Goggles
Sandstorm Goggles

Neck:
Torc
Torin's Choker
Lorrik's Necklace
Twisted thing from red Fins (+25 SP for 50 HP or maybe vice versa)
Finger Necklace (mainly for raids)

Docents:
Quori from Mindsunder
DoQ
Blademarked Docent (not sure if you can Epic it currently)
The healing Potency one from Fleshmakers
(Epic)Docent of Grace (have the Shard and base item...no seal or scroll yet)

Waist/belts
+6 CON +GFL Palidin belt from Amrath
One of the Archmage belts...can't remember which one
Invis Clicky Belt
Planar Gird

Cloak
+10 HP  +150 SP  Concord Opp (Cleaned)
Mantle of Worldshaper
Napkin
The one from DQ that gives you Blur

Bracers:
Levik's Bracers
Bracer's of the Claw (working on Epiccing these)
Tharne's Bracers

Gloves:
Spectral's
Titan Gloves
Gloves of Eternity
Gloves of the Glacier

Boots:
Dustless Boots (trying to epic them...only have base item)
Striding 30 boots
Boots of Anchoring

Trinket:
Bloodstone
Mummified Bat
Voice of Master
Dusk Heart (not sure why I have this)

Rings:
My Rings are SHIT
No ToD rings yet...Obviously after melee-ish rings
Reaver's Ring
I farm hound...but have yet to get Thellis (which of course would help me pew pew pew with my Storm)
Also want a Tumbleweed



Currently I am considering making a Disentegration or Earth Grab guard Helm with last 2 effects being +15 and +20 HP
Or
Boots like that...but then I can not wear it with Firestorm Greaves (trying to get those) or Boots of Anchoring

I feel helm would be OK because the Mindsunder Docent has 6 CON...Superior False Life and Toughness on it.  That would also open my belt slot up.



Anyway, Thoughts?  Suggestions?
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 7:39am
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Bacab wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 5:29am:
Here are my Feats

Addy Body
Toughness
Quicken--- this makes you gimp, get rid of it
Extend
Empower Heal
Power Attack
Improved Crit Slashing

Head:
Minos-- better then nothing I guess...

Goggles:
Tharne's Goggles
Sandstorm Goggles
You are a fvs, cast TS on yourself
Bam, there is your guard... problem solved.

Neck:
Torc
Torin's Choker
Lorrik's Necklace
Twisted thing from red Fins (+25 SP for 50 HP or maybe vice versa)
Finger Necklace is shit, you are a fvs, you will be fine.

Docents:
Quori from Mindsunder unlocked... thats all you need.
DoQ
Blademarked Docent (not sure if you can Epic it currently)
The healing Potency one from Fleshmakers
(Epic)Docent of Grace ---FVS... guess what im gonna say? First two guesses dont count.

Waist/belts
Amaras belt, Tokalas, Kormor's for archmagi and dances!
Invis Clicky Belt
Planar Gird

Cloak
+10 HP  +150 SP  Concord Opp (Cleaned)
Mantle of Worldshaper
Napkin
The one from DQ that gives you Blur

Bracers:
Levik's Bracers
Bracer's of the Claw (working on Epiccing these)
Tharne's Bracers 

Gloves:
Spectral's
Titan Gloves
Gloves of Eternity
Gloves of the Glacier

Boots:
Dustless Boots (trying to epic them...only have base item)
Striding 30 boots
Boots of Anchoring
Firestorm Greaves

Trinket:
Bloodstone
Mummified Bat
Voice of Master
Dusk Heart (not sure why I have this)  Now you dont.

Rings:
My Rings are SHIT
No ToD rings yet...Obviously after melee-ish rings
Reaver's Ring
I farm hound...but have yet to get Thellis (which of course would help me pew pew pew with my Storm)   Smiley
Also want a Tumbleweed --For what?


Anyways, this is what I would do for gear if on a melee FVS... feel free to criticize it.  You will be wrong, but feel free anyways.

Helm:
Minos
GS hp item 
whichever your preference.. though you can have the 150 sp on a smoke item and the 45 hp on a conc opp with +5 con skills (concentration you gimp worthless piece of shit quicken caster)

Necklace:
torc-sp regen
Twisted Talisman
Nyokos for invis clicky
Draconic for gh

Belt:
Knosts-main
Amaras
Kormors
Tokalas
Morahs for jump

Ring:
Some piece of shit cha 6/cha 9 ring
Spell Storing-epic when u can

Ring:
Encrusted

Trinket:
Mysterious bauble
Eardweller
Litany-main
Bloodstone-main if it is your preference.

Cloak:
Mantle of the worldshaper
Smoke cloak with 150 sp and 10 hp or a resist (cleansed)

Gloves:
Gloves of the Claw Epic (when both parts are able to be epic)
Spectral-main
Titan
Gloves of eternity when  people expect you to heal because their undeveloped mind cannot accept casters can melee.

Wrist:
Bracers of the Claw Epic (when both able to be)
Leviks- healing amp

Boots:
Anchoring, firestorm, striders, ff if you hate the 2 min wait or whatever

Goggles: some kind of guard, concordant opp works well

Docent:
One that makes you look like the fag you are for not utilizing blade barrier you fucking gimp assed piece of shit.
DT armor.. update 7 you can see what rune is what and can set yourself up with guards.

Conc good
fort good
gfl good
con good
str good
wis good
DMG bonus good
sp regen good
Full hp and sp good
cha is set as well.. (hence the edit)
See you are set...

« Last Edit: Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:03am by Epoch »  

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Re: I would like some help/advice on gear
Reply #2 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 7:53am
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ALso, going to throw this out there... it is hard to help with what exact gear would be good without knowing what your stats are at endgame.

For example.. with a +3 tome you have a 16+ cha you dont really need a cha item unless you are healing for th ehigher lvl masses.  As you will be able to throw a a single heal on yourself...
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Reply #3 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 8:15am
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I would say toss out addy body, IMO its a worthless feat. Unless yout just taking it for Dress Up
  

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Breaken wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 8:15am:
I would say toss out addy body, IMO its a worthless feat. Unless yout just taking it for Dress Up



No, no, no!

Do NOT do that!

With Adamantine Body, a 20th level WF Favored Soul of the Lord of Blades can reach DR 15/Adamantine!  This is VERY nice!! It works against everything except the Stormreaver whose greatsword is made of Adamantine.
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Arkat wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 8:19am:
No, no, no!

Do NOT do that!

With Adamantine Body, a 20th level WF Favored Soul can reach DR 15/Adamantine!  This is VERY nice!! It works against everything except the Stormreaver whose greatsword is made of Adamantine.

Lol i stand by my original statement
  

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Ahhh

I am a High STR, CON build started with a 12 CHR

I have a +3 CON tome Banked for TR.

Approaching 40th Shroud and 20th raid on some other raids.

DEX, WIS, INT were dump stats

My Human FVS is my Blade Barrier guy.

This toon is the closest I will play to a melee.

I use the Tharne's Goggles for the 8 damage and TS etc etc.

Can not really replace that IMHO as far as meleeing goes.

The Sandstorm Goggles bridge me on the TR from level 11 to 13.

Arkat hit the nail on the head.  Addy body is solely for the dr 15.  Though I *think* I could skip Addy body and still get DR 13?  Not sure if the WF DR Addy enhancements work like toughness enhancements or not.  I will check with my WF castor when I get home.  BTW the Blademark Docent when you have Addy body does indeed look pimp.


I already have Concord Opp and the Torc so I prefer to get hit.  Was thinking a "Guard" build would work well for me...though I guess if I am soloing...I do not need to have Tharne's Goggles on huh.

Oh I use quicken just for the speed...mainly for Mass Heal...also I tend to get back more than enough SP from the Torc and C/O cloak.

I also have Concentration maxed and have exceptional bonuses on my gear also.  I definitely think its an over-looked skill.  Many people have shit for concentration due to quicken and then wonder why they can use scrolls in combat...
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Breaken wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 8:20am:
Lol i stand by my original statement


Thats because you

1.  Do not play casters
2.  Your a motherfucking gimp piece of shit that uses quicken.

Either or... DR 15 with a 55+ concentration is great.
  

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DR13 is pretty awesome to, and comes without taking a feat.
  
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Epoch wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 8:57am:
Thats because you

1.  Do not play casters
2.  Your a motherfucking gimp piece of shit that uses quicken.

Either or... DR 15 with a 55+ concentration is great.



I do i just dont like taking the addy feat.
and why is quicken gimp you have plenty of sp as a Fvs why not use it.
  

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Epoch wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 8:57am:
55+ concentration is great.


55+ concentration wont help if you're taking 300 to the face every 1.5 seconds. Any real caster w/o Quicken is a fucking moron.
  
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damn. Somehow missed his quicken comment. WTF are you going to do with your blade barriers and mass heals without quicken?
Even melee specced you will likelly be expected to heal in raids, and mass heal is the easiest most efficient way to do so while still being able to melee.
And your melee will never be equal to a blade barrier for taking down large numbers of trash. GL maintaining concentration while dropping it.

Just cause you are melee specced doesn't discount the huge variety of situations where quicken is indispensable, even with concentration maxxed.
  
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which dumb idiot uses tharnes for truesight?

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Aranticus wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 11:41pm:
which dumb idiot uses tharnes for truesight?

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I guess if youre role playing concentration is a good thing.

Spell casting simply takes too long on a fvs, so I take quicken and am done with it. You like concentration on your role playing gimps good for fucking you, but dont call people that chose to use quicken instead gimps without looking in the motherfucking mirror first.
  

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I am glad to see others saying quicken is 100% got to have.  Was starting to worry maybe I was doing it wrong.

To Aranticus...yeah I use Tharne's for the +8 dmg and the 15 Spot is helpful (sorta).  The True sight to me is just a bonus.

I have decided to make some earthgrab bonus HP boots for normal play (unless I get lucky on Dragontouched).

Also I will be making some Disentegration Gaurd Goggles for Threat Tanking certain raids (thinking VoD and ToD mainly).  I am thinking that if I am tanking, the Tharne's wont be doing much for me anyway, so Disentegration Gaurd would be the way to go.

Today I found a Docent of Defiance on the AH for 500k gold...bought it really quickly...they go for 15-20 million gold.

One day Horoth won't be a greedy dirt bag and will give me my damn rings...

BTW I think I can push my HP up to 600+ pretty easy NP to tank Horoth.  I am hoping that would be enough...

I was thinking I could hold Horoth while others beat the crap outta Sully and then once Sully is dead I would go back to the Mass Heal Rotation to keep the whole group up.

This a solid plan/strategy?
  
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get rid of the addy body and take quicken, specially if you want to be able to multitask properly as you engage with the rest of the melee. Consider the torc + conc opp for sp regen, since you will be taking damage constanty.
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Alekx wrote on Sep 3rd, 2010 at 3:58am:
get rid of the addy body and take quicken, specially if you want to be able to multitask properly as you engage with the rest of the melee. Consider the torc + conc opp for sp regen, since you will be taking damage constanty.



Yeah I definitely have quicken...Epoch was the person saying to not use it.

I use Addy body more for the ability to push my inherant DR up to 15/Addy

I currently use Torc and a Concord/Opp Cloak on this toon.

As far as dropping Addy body...what would you suggest taking instead?

I plan on taking them in this order.

1. Addy Body
3. Toughness
6. Power Attack
9. Extend
12. Improved Crit Slashing
15. Quicken
18. Empower Heal
  
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Bacab wrote on Sep 3rd, 2010 at 4:46am:
Yeah I definitely have quicken...Epoch was the person saying to not use it.

I use Addy body more for the ability to push my inherant DR up to 15/Addy

I currently use Torc and a Concord/Opp Cloak on this toon.

As far as dropping Addy body...what would you suggest taking instead?

I plan on taking them in this order.

1. Addy Body
3. Toughness
6. Power Attack
9. Extend
12. Improved Crit Slashing
15. Quicken
18. Empower Heal


I'd take Quicken last but that's mostly for Mass Heal which I wouldn't get until 18th level anyway. Taking it earlier to speed up your Blade Barriers is an ok reason to take it at 15th however.

You've got the right feats except for Empower Healing. Definitely take plain old Empower for the boost to spells like Blade Barrier, Cometfall, and Searing Light. You'l have the spell points for Empower so use it. Good luck!  Smiley
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maximize is better than the 2dr imo, but I tend to use a lot of BBs while swinging.
  
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ZombieKenny wrote on Sep 3rd, 2010 at 9:37am:
maximize is better than the 2dr imo, but I tend to use a lot of BBs while swinging.


Yeah, this. I have Maximize on my Wis-dumped WF FVS and it's way more useful than an extra 2 DR. Also helps out with mass cures if you use them.

My ideal gear setup is this:

Goggles: Tharne's
Head: Minos
Neck: Torc/Shintao Cord
Trinket: Bloodstone/Litany/Bauble
Cloak: Conc Opp (Blindness Ward/+150 SP)
Belt: Knost's
Ring 1: Encrusted (+2 STR crafted)
Ring 2: Kyosho's (+2 Con)/Cha+6 ToD ring (+2 Con)
Gloves: GS 45 HP Guard gloves (Was going Earthgrab here, but got that on my sovereign, so I dunno)
Boots: Firestorm Greaves/Striders/Epic Dustless Boots
Bracers: Bracers of the Glacier (the cold shield proc rocks)
Body: DT Docent (+5 Resistance/Efficient Empower Healing II/Earthgrab Guard)

Feats are the same as yours, except I took Maximize over Addy Body. I may also switch out Empower Heal for Empower, for the reasons listed by Arkat, but I am loathe to pay for a dragonshard.
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Reply #22 - Sep 3rd, 2010 at 11:03am
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Bacab wrote on Sep 3rd, 2010 at 3:01am:
I am glad to see others saying quicken is 100% got to have.  Was starting to worry maybe I was doing it wrong.

To Aranticus...yeah I use Tharne's for the +8 dmg and the 15 Spot is helpful (sorta).  The True sight to me is just a bonus.

I have decided to make some earthgrab bonus HP boots for normal play (unless I get lucky on Dragontouched).

Also I will be making some Disentegration Gaurd Goggles for Threat Tanking certain raids (thinking VoD and ToD mainly).  I am thinking that if I am tanking, the Tharne's wont be doing much for me anyway, so Disentegration Gaurd would be the way to go.

Today I found a Docent of Defiance on the AH for 500k gold...bought it really quickly...they go for 15-20 million gold.

One day Horoth won't be a greedy dirt bag and will give me my damn rings...

BTW I think I can push my HP up to 600+ pretty easy NP to tank Horoth.  I am hoping that would be enough...

I was thinking I could hold Horoth while others beat the crap outta Sully and then once Sully is dead I would go back to the Mass Heal Rotation to keep the whole group up.

This a solid plan/strategy?



I dont think quicken is a totally must have, but I sure like it. It takes forever to toss a mass heal. I really considered not taking it on my melee fvs as it simply takes way too long to cast, and every moment your waving your damn arms around your not swinging.

That said, once they fixed mass heal, it became simply too powerful not to have imo. So for me quicken is a must on mine as it maximizes melee time.

The only time I sit back and heal on mine is when im lazy, othewise Im in the mix, mass heal is very nice for sp conservation, but it just takes so long.

Also when im soloing I still use BB (dumped wis) to soften mobs up. As long as they dont have evasion it helps. Again, quicken Smiley
  

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Reply #23 - Sep 3rd, 2010 at 11:41am
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I am jealous that you have both Litany and the Eardweller.  I toy with asking you how long it too to get each or just silently hating you.

Epoch's edits seem cool.  I am not qualified to edit his edit, but just an idea I'll throw out there: duskheart is useless except the epic upgrade of duskheart is one of the best epic upgrades in the game.  For some toons at least, pretty good deal.  Check it out.
  
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Re: I would like some help/advice on gear
Reply #24 - Sep 3rd, 2010 at 1:17pm
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ZombieKenny wrote on Sep 3rd, 2010 at 9:37am:
maximize is better than the 2dr imo, but I tend to use a lot of BBs while swinging.


Dammit I meant to suggest Maximize...not Empower!
  

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