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Reply #25 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 11:12am
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zed wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 7:56pm:
I was just listening to ddocast, and one of the devs describe it (near the end of the interview).

+2 strength when health is below 50%
an additional +2 when health is below 25%
an additional +4 when health is below 10%

Edit: Forgot to mention that they have a brute fighting line as well.

Is this something to do with AP? It seems a little excessive compared to the other races if it's something that is standard.
  
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Reply #26 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 12:18pm
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Old McRonald wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 11:12am:
Is this something to do with AP? It seems a little excessive compared to the other races if it's something that is standard.


At half health you're potentially in OHKO territory of anything that matters. At a quarter health you definitely are, and at 10% health you're in OHKO territory of the things that don't matter.

All it really does is try to trick you into playing retarded. And probably lead to more raid lag, as your DPS gets recalculated at least once a second.
  

                           

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Reply #27 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 2:15pm
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Hi Welcome wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 12:18pm:
At half health you're potentially in OHKO territory of anything that matters. At a quarter health you definitely are, and at 10% health you're in OHKO territory of the things that don't matter.

All it really does is try to trick you into playing retarded. And probably lead to more raid lag, as your DPS gets recalculated at least once a second.

Two things: first, to answer McRonald's question, yes, I believe they are related to AP.

Second: I can just see the mega-HP builds coming back to take advantage of this.  1400HP build is still 700HP at 50%!
  

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Reply #28 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 5:43pm
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So this is going to encourage all the stupid people that will be running around as Half-Orc Barbarians to act even more so?
  
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Reply #29 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 5:58pm
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Old McRonald wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 5:43pm:
So this is going to encourage all the stupid people that will be running around as Half-Orc Barbarians to act even more so?

They certainly won't be afraid to use their various vicious abilities Smiley
  

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Reply #30 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:36pm
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zed wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 7:56pm:
+2 strength when health is below 50%
an additional +2 when health is below 25%
an additional +4 when health is below 10%


Is this going to be a only while under the hp limit you recieve the +Str or will it be a timed buff once you reach the hp threshold? Like the different types of rages.
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Reply #31 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:51pm
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woody wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:36pm:
Is this going to be a only while under the hp limit you recieve the +Str or will it be a timed buff once you reach the hp threshold? Like the different types of rages.


I'm just guessing here, but I would imagine that it is a timed buff kind of like madstone.
It was mentioned somewhere, and I am too lazy to look it up, that the buffs to str stack for a total of +8
  
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Reply #32 - Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:54pm
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Axeman wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:51pm:
I'm just guessing here, but I would imagine that it is a timed buff kind of like madstone.
It was mentioned somewhere, and I am too lazy to look it up, that the buffs to str stack for a total of +8


It being a timed buff makes more sense as doing it that way is easier on everything but this is Turbine we are talking about so I had to ask.
  
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Reply #33 - Sep 13th, 2010 at 4:21am
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Old McRonald wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 5:43pm:
So this is going to encourage all the stupid people that will be running around as Half-Orc Barbarians to act even more so?

I'm looking forward to this as a fresh source of PUG drama. The stale raid-loot assignment hasn't produced anything worthwhile for a long time, and neither has class-exclusion or MyDDO. This has some potential; from the half-orc players themselves, to the stressed healers, to all the rest loosing 10% XP.
  
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Reply #34 - Sep 13th, 2010 at 12:49pm
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Old McRonald wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 11:12am:
Is this something to do with AP? It seems a little excessive compared to the other races if it's something that is standard.


Yeah, it was referred to as the "Orc fury enhancement line" in the interview.  I would guess that it is available in 3 tiers.

No mention of how long it lasts (timer or while your health is below the specified amount.)
  
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Reply #35 - Sep 14th, 2010 at 9:07am
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Strakeln wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 2:15pm:
Two things: first, to answer McRonald's question, yes, I believe they are related to AP.

Second: I can just see the mega-HP builds coming back to take advantage of this.  1400HP build is still 700HP at 50%!


Yeah, but don't you lose DPS anyways to pull that off? As in, far more than you'd get from +2 Str? Or even +4 or +8?
  

                           

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Reply #36 - Sep 14th, 2010 at 8:42pm
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Hi Welcome wrote on Sep 14th, 2010 at 9:07am:
Yeah, but don't you lose DPS anyways to pull that off? As in, far more than you'd get from +2 Str? Or even +4 or +8?

I didn't comment on whether or not it was wise to do so.  I practically guarantee it will happen though  Grin
  

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Reply #37 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:34am
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Strakeln wrote on Sep 14th, 2010 at 8:42pm:
I didn't comment on whether or not it was wise to do so.  I practically guarantee it will happen though  Grin


True. But Fraps or it didn't happen.

It's too bad Axer already quit. You know how he is about max DPS...
  

                           

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Reply #38 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 10:39am
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Hi Welcome wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:34am:
True. But Fraps or it didn't happen.

It's too bad Axer already quit. You know how he is about max DPS...


Axer is too uber for you to comment on him.

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Use the Kormor's Belt on him? As tempting as that is, I'm not on Khyber.
  

                           

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Hi Welcome wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 1:22pm:
Use the Kormor's Belt on him? As tempting as that is, I'm not on Khyber.


Hi Fail.
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Hi Fail.


Fail.

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Success.
  

                           

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Hi Welcome wrote on Sep 16th, 2010 at 8:51am:
Fail.


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Do I even want to know?
  

                           

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Reply #46 - Oct 8th, 2010 at 3:37pm
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Looks like Tubine made the HOrc strength bonus when the health falls a non timed buff. If you are below half life you get it but goes away when healed.

Per Hokonoso on lama land forums:

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Reply #47 - Oct 8th, 2010 at 3:38pm
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woody wrote on Oct 8th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
Looks like Tubine made the HOrc strength bonus when the health falls a non timed buff. If you are below half life you get it but goes away when healed.

Per Hokonoso on lama land forums:


Thread here for those that can view it:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=278893


That could happen during a swing. :p
  

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Reply #48 - Oct 8th, 2010 at 3:46pm
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stainer wrote on Oct 8th, 2010 at 3:38pm:
That could happen during a swing. :p


Does'nt make any sense whatsoever. I'm sure it will help lag in raids when there are 4-6 Horc melees with constantly fluxuating STR. Easier on the system to make it a timed buff with enchment lines to increase timer and what not.
  
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Reply #49 - Oct 8th, 2010 at 3:47pm
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Is also appearently a morale bonus so it does not stack with rage spell/pot.
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