I saw him dancing in Meridia last night: a level 18 TR half-orc.  Depending on how many times he's TRed that's 350K or 470K XP a day. I have to say, I'm impressed and a little horrified.

Woody/Eladiun: does your man sleep?

zed wrote on Oct 26^th, 2010 at 2:27pm:


i typically get 1.2 m xp in 10 days of gaming, abt 2hr solid runs. thats 60k per hr. when the cap was 16, i've capped a toon in 4 days of gaming, thats abt 340k xp per day. so what you said is not impossible

Breaken wrote on Oct 26^th, 2010 at 8:56pm:


not to mention xp pots as well or stuff like voice which were non existant back then

Obviously it's possible because I saw the guy

No, I guess I just thought it was interesting.  I knew people were capping toons quickly, but for the most part it isn't ever quite that obvious.  I guess I wasn't paying as much attention when FVS were released.

Aranticus, I'd love to hear any techniques you have.  I've been using MrCow's melee TR diary as a starting point for what quests I should be focusing on per level.  So far it has served me pretty well, but I could always get faster.  I'm lucky to get 50K in 3 hours.

zed wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 12:16am:


there is really no secret. just run with decent people for a long time. most of the time spent by a lot of players are looking for members. do stuff that you can solo or make it faster with like minded players and you go fast

on my 2nd TR as a barb, i was very fortunate to run with zod and smitherz. we did back to back cabal runs (window for xp/min). each of us know our roles well, ie in the first room, me and smitherz would kill the hobs while zod went to talk to npc. by the time we were done with the killing, the gate opened for us to kill the next set, then we would separate into 2 groups. opening shrine and the 1st objective simultaneously. this cuts the time by up to 40% per run and we would finish cabal in approx 5-8mins. with an xp rating of abt 1.2-1.5k per min, we were hitting abt 80k xp/hr

the quests also play a role. some have solid optional xp, ie wizking is worth abt 14k for approx 10 min run if you get wizking in 1st tower. however, if you can get 2 other players that can solo 1 tower each you stand to get another 12k more in the same amount of time. this cannot be done as effectively say in tear of dhaakan where the quest is more or less linear

this is how i level my TRs

1-3 misery, ringleader, info is key, ww
4-6 stk, TR, deleras
6-9 gwylans, tear, sc, vons
10-12 shadow crypt, relic, wizking, oob, von3
13-15 GH, necro 4
16-18 vale
18-20 IQ, IQ2, amrath

Aranticus wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 2:49am:

Window farm shadow crypt until you hate it. It is 2 lvls worth of xp on a non tr.

Haste-FW-Haste-FW-Haste-FW

Breaken wrote on Oct 26^th, 2010 at 8:56pm:


25% bonus weekend
20% pot
5% VotM
3% Guild shrine

Yep thats alot of bonus xp.

zed wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 1:32pm:


The non-linear quests rock.  Take gwylans.  If you can split up the 3 caves and the two outdoor crates into even two teams you can cut the time to complete down below 10 minutes easy.  If you get people who can solo a cave (Except maybe the Zared cave) then it can be even faster.

Stormcleave, same thing.  Split up into two or three groups and then converge for the final fight. 

Deleras 4, Wizking, Foundation of discord... Lots of quests can be done this way.  Even when they are linear you can find ways to speed things up by having people hit different objectives or (like said above) have a sweeper or two who does optionals/breakables while the rest of the team zergs the quest.

I was running my 8th level TR with 4 Ransack guys last night and in 40 minutes we hit two tear runs and a gwylans run and I netted 50k of xp from it.  And that was without getting the tears (just the very last one that you would have to try hard to not pick up). 

It just takes having the right players to do those kind of runs with. 

One more comment on this topic, I like to move along in a TR, but if all you are doing is grinding a few quests, it's not much fun.  I tend to grind XP in 2-3 quests to get the first 3 AP of a level and then spend the last two running other at level quests for favor, flagging, or just because I like the quest.  It breaks up the monotony and it allows you to work in those goals (Favor for example) while you still earn XP at the same time.