So, I imagine that everyone has participated at least a little bit in the previews of the coming event? While I love some of the rewards (the Cloak of Night is sweet) I really wish that it was better organised on DDO's end.

While I have earned 9 keys from killing mobs during the previews, I have yet once to complete the raid (well, sort-of-kind-of raid, to be continued...) and apperently some bright dev added that you can trade in 10K essences for a scale, but essences stacks are 9,999 max. Pure win.

Back to the sort-of-kind-of raid. What a piece of crap design and implementation. I only wish I could say this so openly on the *other* forums, but honestly, it is pure unfettered uninspiered shit.

You have no idea how many other people are in with you, you have no idea where they are or what they are doing, you have no idea where your healer-types are or even if you have any. You have no way to talk to everyone else in the event other then general chat.

Honestly, how hard would it have been to add peoples locations to the map, and a party bar like in every other freaking bloody group quest/raid in the entire game? I am honestly impressed anyone ever gets completions.

And this does not even begin to touch on the technical side problems with the altars spontaniously coming to life as kobalds, dragons that become untouchable NPCs, though I have to admit I did not get kicked at all, I certainly heard after events from several people who are still getting the boot from the event while in progress and still losing keys.

It's like a 16-man solo event, where you just hope to hell you have enough of the right people doing the right things at the right times AND that no wierd bugs occur.

I hope to hell they are doing some serious tweaking for when the event really starts, but I somehow doubt anything will be changed.

Turbines mantra now seems to be "We are too far along in development, we cannot make changes". Someone should sit them down and explain the concept of Beta testing and player feedback to them. Using a large stick might help.

Part 2: Kill stealing in event while gathering essesnces. While I have to admit at least yeterday after changing event channels and locations a few times, I did finally find a spot to farm, I was still quite frequently interrupted by high levels blowing though and AoEing everything as they flew past.

A) I am a recent TR, I am fighting mob spawns way below their level, and repeatedly killing my mobs does absolutely shit for them, and just pisses me off. Running laps around a instance spamming AoEs hoping to hit something occasionally in your correct level range is stupid and untimately inneffective.

B) They finish blowing though just as spawns are coming, and I have to sit there for 3 min stareing at unkillable Lv 20 event mobs, waiting for my wraiths and ect to spawn and for these unkillable spawns to vanish.

And I did learn something interesting that I will share, if say you kill one of your spawns (say a Lv 1 Zombie) within I would say about 10-15 virtual in-game feet, any high level spawns from other players in this radious even though they are not your spawns, will still aggro on you. I found this out as I nearly got ass-raped by several nearby frostmarrows while trying to kill my wraiths that spawned at the same time. Fun.

Finally, I had a "you have to be fucking kidding me, your serious?" moment reading the *other* forum, where everyone is raving over how great it is that AoE run-by spammers are helping everyone. I call absolute fucking bullshit.

I spent 3 hours farming essences/items in the event yesterday solo, and not once in any drive-by spamming did I get one single drop or essence. The only time I ever got anything the entire time from shared kills was vampire fangs from vampires.

I am suspecting that most of these posters are fly-by spammers hoping to talk everyone into accepting their actions as a good thing, or people just so fucking stupid that while in a party farming while AoE spammers are killing their mobs, they are still getting drops from what the rest of the party is doing and thinking its great that drops just magically appear in their inventory after getting their mobs killed.

So I guess don't be overly suprised to see many fly-by AoE'rs in full force during the actual event. After all they are "helping" you apperently.

Still getting my cloak, Already have most of what I need already, short of the scales, it just makes me shake my head at the level of stupidity surrounding this event so far.


Kit

Not drama, just pointing out flaws and problems with the event and discussing player behaviour in the event.

If it was drama, I would put it under drama, but as the Mabar event starts very soon and is certainly DDO related, I put it under DDO.

Seven heavens help one who enters the event not knowing the mirad problems beforehand, like I said in the other post, I know the flaws and still have problems with raid completions.

Probably mot such a huge deal with Lv 20's running it, but I fall in the 9+ range of runs after TRing, and its damn hard, and possibly plain undoable with how it is set up right now.


Kit

Even on Lam it was pointed out that the live event was geared for Arcane and Divine casters. I was more than likly one of those run by spammers. If I got a pot running I am not staying in one place to wait for spawns. I run around hit my burst AOE anytime I see a mob pop up regardless of who is next it. Melees are at a huge disadvantage there if even one cleric is in the party. Yes its a flaw and it sucks.
I do know that you can collect motes outside of the event area and posted a thread on the official boards to see if anyone else has experimented with it and found  a good spot to farm motes.

kitsune_ko wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 7:31pm:


If you have the ability to AOE why not run a pot? I smack a group fo 10 undead with one aura burst and they all go down. Even if they are too low lvl to give me a turn in items I get motes from it.

kitsune_ko wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 7:31pm:


Do not hang in one spot. Make sure your group is constantly on the move and moving together.

kitsune_ko wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 7:31pm:


Reason why alot of people are upset at the event. It takes you 15-30 seconds to kill mob. Casters swoop in hit one key, maybe two and move on.

kitsune_ko wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 7:31pm:


I've actually had to be carfull with new spawns as I've wasted my aura burst on groups of undead that had not loaded in or whatever they were doing. Agreed its annoying to see them pop then have to wait 5-10 seconds to get aggro so that they can take damage.

Breaken wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:29pm:


I was thinking I was unlucky as hell because my collectible drop rate is crap. Even when hanging out with 18-20 raid party I cant get skulls, finger bones, or opals worth a shit. And yeah I do think that they should have sectioned it off by lvls like they do with the raid.

k0ukla wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 10:03pm:


Good luck getting a key for the event. I have collected almost 5000( prolly a little over that) motes and still have not had a key drop for me. I bought my first one just to see what the dragon raid was like. It was a fun clusterfuck.

tl; dr

well i got 2.3k motes tonight, a scale, 7 keys, oh & a lich dust 

I think nearly everything is fair game -- of course if you're a one-toon kind of person and you've recently TR'd you may be in trouble -- but there's one kind of kill stealers I really CAN'T stand :

It's those who get together a group of arcanes, and deliberately position themselves next to a group including several high-level divines.

ZAP ZAP we get all drops and free high-level spawns and free heals from the suckers to boot...

The farm is boring enough as it is without also having to deal with this kind of childish CRAP.

(not to mention STILL awaiting arrivals of my toons from Europe, so that even the farming that I *can* do is 90% screwed)

k0ukla wrote on Oct 28^th, 2010 at 8:22am:

hey ,check your messages tc

Epoch wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2010 at 7:12am:



LOL well I didn't do it like that (honestly didn't check back here til now haha), although I did pike while having a flame war in general chat with Mehdick LOL

I just held my own raid groups and dragons all went smoothly

Well except for one there was horrible horrible lag but we still somehow completed, so  I have my handwraps YAY