My cleric is level 17 and I could shroud flag pretty easily. I usually don't pay attention to healers very often, but I have heard discussion about healing strategies. Do you alternate mclw and mcmw in pt 4 and 5?

Probably could stand to have some eq advice too. I have just been piecing crap together as I find it.

stainer wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2010 at 2:39pm:



STFU!

I typically watch the other healer, and try to time my mass heals so that they fall while his mass heal countdown is going. It took a bit of practice getting the timing right.


I know you didn't ask, but here goes:

In eVon6, at the dragon, I typically only use mass heal.

In TOD, in the hallways, mass critical, then mass heal at the judge/jailer, the shadowmaster, and Horoth.

In Hound, mass heal, because I usually only focus on the middle dog, and can't see the health of the other two, so I figure better safe than sorry.

In VoD, I go with whatever will fill the bars of the largest group, since everyone is typically spread out.

I agree with Schmoe: Shut your mouf, Stainer!

Schmoe wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2010 at 2:56pm:


I am going to grind out the last three levels. Screw shroud. 

MalakRevan wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2010 at 4:14pm:

WF can stand in my aura and suck it.

I have heard that people should have enough HP so that the cleric can us Mass Heal.  If they can't survive the cool down for that spell then they are gimped.

On my bard...yes bard...only have access to mass mod and mass light.  If I had a few more SP I could solo heal.  I've mostly done it, just ran out of SP in part 5.  Harry was down to 10% when I ran out and the FvS took over, in part 5.  I can solo part 4 if the DPS is good enough to make it a one rounder.  That was before I got my SP item.

I generally don't want to try and solo heal it mostly because I pug and there are some really sucky builds that have no DPS or survivability.

Then there is the Lag Monster.  Having a second healer is at least some measure of back up.

Most people don't understand a heal spec'ed Spellsinger can heal quite well.  They make comments like we only have one real healer in the group, never mind the fact that I can get them through part 4 if the DPS is good enough to make it a one rounder.  Also never mind the fact that the healers were using Mass mod and light before Mass Heal got fixed and they used Mass Mod and Light because of the Superior Potency IV items.

I don't think there are any ways to boost your heals other than the eardweller and that is temporary.  All the potency items I know about are Superior VI.

Too many feel that Mass Heal is the way to go.  Squishies don't always survive.

popejubal wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2010 at 6:16pm:


Empower heal. Though I dont see any reason to do that unless every beater was a super hp WF barb. I turned to the mass heal method on my cleric and throw a MCCW if things get tight between cooldowns.

Some people make the mistake of leaving empower and maximise on.

Turn them both off and rotate between your mass cures. It is more important to maintain peoples health above 25-50%. If you need to adjust use Empower or Empower Heal.

Also if you have low sp use MassCureModerate scrolls to supliment your lower SP. I have had np healing in the Shroud with 1200SP in the past.

Your only major issue and every others clerc's major issue is lag spikes that negate the spell you have just cast.

Another minor issue which comes up from time to time is people who have toons with no Fort. Items or they have 150HPs they really screw with your SP efficiency. Let them die if your sp is getting too low.

Razcar wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2010 at 9:58am:


I was thinking that I should probably target mah healing on a melee that isn't going to poop themselves when the blades come in. That a good plan?

stainer wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2010 at 10:00am:


I've only done a little Shroud healing and I already have noticed that this is an important point.  Having your healing target die sucks, but having your healing target run away when the blades come in while everyone else is still in sucks even more since you can at least see immediately when your target dies.

Razcar wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2010 at 10:47am:

Agreed.
The trick is to know who is required and who is expendable.
If things start to go south AT ALL you just ignore the expendables and focus on the primaries.

If you try to keep the expendable guys up if/when things go south, that'll be time spent NOT healing the primaries.
If/when this happens is when things start to spiral downward.
Know who to ignore if needed.  This knowledge will save a shitty pug on the brink of failure quite often.
Letting a specific person [or 3] die can easily save a shitty p4.

stainer wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2010 at 10:00am:


Well, no. Considering yer sp points are fairly low and from what you've said before about this build of yours... my question is, why aren't you in there as well? that way you just center heals on yerself, poop or no poop.

Stainer:

1. How many HP do you have on your cleric?  The reason I am asking is that if this is a RS cleric you are running with only 1200sp, you likely need to be standing close to the group and let your aura help you out some.  One of the advantages clerics have in there lately is the RS Aura.  Even a shitty aura will help immensely in keeping the squishtastic as well as the 'wtfareyoudoinghere' alive in between your choice of heals.  Your heals will hit you too.  In time, you will get bored in competent groups and find yourself trying to help kill the Pit Fiend.  In borderline groups you'll not be forced to overheal/chug/overheal/chug...  If I remember correctly, you have a tendency to put more hp on toons than I do.  And I like to melee Harry while healing to save boredom.

2. Dude, your getting a Del... er Cleric.  Have your guildies drag you through a couple of norm runs of Amrath content.  That way you have one of the belts with the Sup Ador 8 on it.  That freaking thing is awesome, and I use it as a tool on all of my healing toons.  Even my non heal speccd' bard who gets called on in oh shit moments. 

3. If you are running with your guildies, you know what to expect.  Pugland can be wonderfully amusing and intensely frustrating at the same time.  Expect the no fort 170hp wonders to blame you for not overhealing them.  Because they will.

My preferred method of healing on a FvS is Mass Heal/MCLW/Spot Heal.  As far as picking a target, I agree with the hp check.  Otherwise, just pick a toon with some hp.  Warforged/Dwarven barbs make nice targets.  However, if you are standing with the party don't worry about a target.  The spell radius will hit everyone.

Oh, and Superior Ador 6 clickies work on MCLW/MCMW until you have an Amrath belt.  Or in moments you are low and would otherwise yell, "... run my allies!"