kitsune_ko wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:39pm:

Take what you know of D&D in Faerun-esque settings and toss it out the window.  You ain't in Cormyr anymore son.  Eberron is a whole different place.

In Pen and Paper D&D, WF are mostly wood and rock - with very little metal included in their manufacture. Much less then DDO's body models would imply. So, they can be Druids providing they don't take the Mithril or Adamantine body feats. Other Druids' opinions of WF can vary - between being as negative towards them as you describe, to embracing them as a new form of sentient life to. My favorite character I ever played in Eberron PnP was a WF Druid.  

I think DDO will follow the same basic rules - blocking out all Druid spells and abilities should a WF take either body feat. This is also assuming we ever see Druids... which at the present rate of new classes being added should be in another year and a half or so.

The Druid sects in  Eberron are far more concerned with keeping Outsiders, well, out of Eberron than the typical tree-hugging  Druid you find in most other Campaign worlds. Besides, WF are composed entirely of metal plating overlaying cords of Bronzewood - yes, WF are "green".

Mister_Peace wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 5:34pm:


More importantly, they do not die of old age.  Just think of how powerful a WF druid from the last 400 years could be just grinding out XP!

Yes, I powergame in PnP as well... It is usually not appreciated.  Hence why I am banned from monks (ac/saves immortality) and all spellcasters, including rangers and paladins.

The Paladin was just because he specialized in divination and kill the group in their sleep so the future he saw where they become leaders of different evil cults would not come true.  It was my sweet sweet revenge.

Hi Welcome wrote on Nov 16^th, 2010 at 4:48pm:


My guess is shitty DM.

Arkat wrote on Nov 16^th, 2010 at 5:35pm:


Correctamundo.

I took full advantage of it.  I feel no shame.

Epoch wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 3:32am:


Fixed. But him being a shitty DM had nothing to do with allowing all books, I do that all the time. It had to do with the fact he was honestly unable to challenge fail tier classes like the Monk, the Paladin, and the Ranger.

Which means if I showed up with even a half decent god tier class, I'd cause the game to immediately explode and implode. At the same time.

But for amusement purposes, exactly what stats did this character have and at what levels? Curious to know how big of a fail this DM was.

That would explain it then. Those types are common among new players and...

Does Mr. Fail DM visit the Paizo boards? Because that kind of retardation is right up their alley.

Epoch wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 11:37am:


Well, it's easy to find out. Was he the type to be a complete and utter retard if anyone took a Charisma score lower than 10? If he is, congrats. You found a Paizil (Paizo + Fail).

Epoch wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 5:16am:


Fail DMs of course. I'm assuming you mean they had items, but it was easy for you to persuade them to give them to you?

But that definitely sounds like a Paizil. If you go over there right now you'll find at least a half dozen threads, and possibly more all about people bitching about Charisma. And the only reason why they're doing it is because a certain high Charisma troll correctly pointed out that their point buy system is incredibly abusable (more than 3.5) so if you want free power, regardless of the PB value of the game just take a 7 in a stat you don't care about. And Charisma was the most likely to qualify, followed by Strength. And the strong classes had the most stats they don't care about, which just means low PB powers up the best characters and kicks everyone else in the nuts.

Of course none of this got the intended message across to them, that being that they should just stop being retarded and use the highest PB, since it makes no power difference for the real classes and might just make the other classes stop being so gimpy. I mean really, when the already weak classes are forced to run around with an effective primary stat of 12 while the real classes get maxed prime stats and a solid Con... Well they are Paizils, and thus subhuman by definition.

Anyways, point is find a DM who doesn't fail at life. This is admittedly difficult because even though the market share right now is something like 60% 3.5, 20% 4th edition, 20% Pathfailure that's still 40% of all games that suck automatically. And that's before getting into the many clueless noobs in 3.5. People like myself, Aspenor, etc who have a clue are unfortunately in a minority.

Epoch wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 10:44am:

But you can see Russia!

You betcha!