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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Window Farming Rumor Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	Did anyone get banned for window farming this weekend?

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Alekx VoD Slasher Offline Argonnessen Posts: 1895 Location: NYC Joined: Aug 21^st, 2009	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #1 - Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	I dont know man but putting up WINDOW FARMING on your lfm, as I saw last weekend in Khyber, is just plain stupid.

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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #2 - Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	Not I, but I didn't window farm this weekend either. Haven't heard anything either.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #3 - Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:55pm	Print Post
	Alekx wrote on Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:52pm: I dont know man but putting up WINDOW FARMING on your lfm, as I saw last weekend in Khyber, is just plain stupid. Agreed. I've seen that before and facepalmed.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #4 - Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:57pm	Print Post
	Alekx wrote on Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:52pm: I dont know man but putting up WINDOW FARMING on your lfm, as I saw last weekend in Khyber, is just plain stupid. Yes, that is pretty dumb.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Nevthial Dragon Raider Offline Cundalini wants his hand back Posts: 206 Location: G-Town!! Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #5 - Nov 29^th, 2010 at 5:19pm	Print Post
	I tried tell all the fucksticks it's something you don't advertise in that fucked up thread last week. Personally, I think the thread wasn't locked so a sting operation could be done based on who said what. ( But, then again, I'm a paranoid fuck so.....)

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #6 - Nov 29^th, 2010 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:57pm: Yes, that is pretty dumb. I window farmed this weekend. Part 6 of Tangleroot on a TR and then Part 2 of Delera's. It was just me and a guildie. No LFM or anything. No ban either, that I know of yet.


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Sirea Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 205 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #7 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 4:10am	Print Post
	Alekx wrote on Nov 29^th, 2010 at 4:52pm: I dont know man but putting up WINDOW FARMING on your lfm, as I saw last weekend in Khyber, is just plain stupid. Just about as stupid as the people who put "need cleric with DI or Dark Monk" in Abbot LFMs.


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Hordo High Rabbi Offline Le Douchebag Posts: 2405 Location: Cordova, Tennessee Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #8 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 10:08am	Print Post
	Ok folks...lemme clear something up... What USED TO BE an exploit and did lead to some bans a year or so ago, i.e. Window Farming, is NO LONGER considered an exploit AS LONG AS it does not explicity bypass a standard timed lock-out (such as a raid timer or an epic timer). I got this from some GM a while back who took 3 months to answer my question. I'll look for the real data when I'm not piking at work. Hordo

	I am the Rabbi, goo goo g'Jew! Who doesn't <3 Gornn? GORNN II 4:3:17 - For Gornn sent not Hordo into the world to save the party; but that the party through him might be wiped. [QUOTE=404error;4155294]Hordo I don't want to steal you from these forums because your almost an icon here. ;p [/quote]
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Asketes Puppy Farmer Offline Perma Posts: 1371 Location: California Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #9 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 12:04pm	Print Post
	Hordo wrote on Nov 30^th, 2010 at 10:08am: Ok folks...lemme clear something up... What USED TO BE an exploit and did lead to some bans a year or so ago, i.e. Window Farming, is NO LONGER considered an exploit AS LONG AS it does not explicity bypass a standard timed lock-out (such as a raid timer or an epic timer). I got this from some GM a while back who took 3 months to answer my question.� I'll look for the real data when I'm not piking at work. Hordo isn't piking my job at my job? err ...... um .... yeah


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Cale Abbot Raider Offline Meh.... Drama Posts: 954 Joined: May 9^th, 2010	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #10 - Nov 30^th, 2010 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	Hordo wrote on Nov 30^th, 2010 at 10:08am: Ok folks...lemme clear something up... What USED TO BE an exploit and did lead to some bans a year or so ago, i.e. Window Farming, is NO LONGER considered an exploit AS LONG AS it does not explicity bypass a standard timed lock-out (such as a raid timer or an epic timer). I got this from some GM a while back who took 3 months to answer my question.� I'll look for the real data when I'm not piking at work. Hordo I'll do it for you. From the guild site: Quote: I was lucky enough to get a reply from a GM...finally...regarding my query about window farming. (Admin): <Player:IIDString:0x02130000003ABF7A:+Etymologist+>+Etymologist+<\Player> tells you, 'The In-Game Support Team does not currently consider the practice known as "Window Farming" to be an exploit.' Which is good news for certain monks in the guild. I followed up with a secondary question since I know several people personally who were banned for this practice and... (Admin): <Player:IIDString:0x02130000003ABF7A:+Etymologist+>+Etymologist+<\Player> tells you, 'If anyone wishes to appeal a ban, they can contact us with a ticket submitted here: http://www.lotro.com/component/content/article/491-support-ticket-tse' I love the fact that it's a LOTRO website! ROFL! THUS THE SUM... There is no longer any problem with guildies performing the Window Farming� in order to quickly repeat a quest as long as it is not bypassing a flagging mechanism which is a different exploit not related to the Window Farming practice. Pass the word on ladies and gentlemen...


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Hordo High Rabbi Offline Le Douchebag Posts: 2405 Location: Cordova, Tennessee Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #11 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 9:06am	Print Post
	Cale wrote on Nov 30^th, 2010 at 3:27pm: I'll do it for you. From the guild site: 3 toppies for you for digging through the labyrinth that I have allowed our guild website to become!

	I am the Rabbi, goo goo g'Jew! Who doesn't <3 Gornn? GORNN II 4:3:17 - For Gornn sent not Hordo into the world to save the party; but that the party through him might be wiped. [QUOTE=404error;4155294]Hordo I don't want to steal you from these forums because your almost an icon here. ;p [/quote]
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Cale Abbot Raider Offline Meh.... Drama Posts: 954 Joined: May 9^th, 2010	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #12 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:07pm	Print Post
	1. It was an honor to create a situation wherein you could pike the Vault. 2. Yes, the guild site forums are indeed a bit of a labyrinth. 3. Yes, you remind me of the babe. On a side note, you missed it the other day. A certain nameless fairly new guildy posted that there was 1 spot open for a DPS in his Hound run. My response: Dude, the puppies are the DPS in there. A Bard, a Cleric, and 10 Hordos could get a completion. Take anyone that wants to come.


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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #13 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	Cale wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:07pm: 1.� It was an honor to create a situation wherein you could pike the Vault. 2.� Yes, the guild site forums are indeed a bit of a labyrinth. 3.� Yes, you remind me of the babe. On a side note, you missed it the other day.� A certain nameless fairly new guildy posted that there was 1 spot open for a DPS in his Hound run. My response: Dude, the puppies are the DPS in there.� �A Bard, a Cleric, and 10 Hordos could get a completion.� Take anyone that wants to come. I just heard today that the Dog summons that Rangers get can also hurt the Hound directly. I guess there's one quest where Rangers are top DPS.

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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #14 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	popejubal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:18pm: I just heard today that the Dog summons that Rangers get can also hurt the Hound directly.� I guess there's one quest where Rangers are top DPS.� That would be pretty awesome. I will have to try that. Four or five of those would make an elite run quick.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #15 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:27pm: That would be pretty awesome. I will have to try that. Four or five of those would make an elite run quick. With a Warchanter and Inspire Recklessness, you can get her on Hard before the baby beholders spawn now. I was a bit surprised the first time I saw it.
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	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Hordo High Rabbi Offline Le Douchebag Posts: 2405 Location: Cordova, Tennessee Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #16 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:34pm: With a Warchanter and Inspire Recklessness, you can get her on Hard before the baby beholders spawn now.� I was a bit surprised the first time I saw it. That's what she said...

	I am the Rabbi, goo goo g'Jew! Who doesn't <3 Gornn? GORNN II 4:3:17 - For Gornn sent not Hordo into the world to save the party; but that the party through him might be wiped. [QUOTE=404error;4155294]Hordo I don't want to steal you from these forums because your almost an icon here. ;p [/quote]
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Hordo High Rabbi Offline Le Douchebag Posts: 2405 Location: Cordova, Tennessee Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #17 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:38pm	Print Post
	Cale wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:07pm: 1.� It was an honor to create a situation wherein you could pike the Vault. 2.� Yes, the guild site forums are indeed a bit of a labyrinth. 3.� Yes, you remind me of the babe. On a side note, you missed it the other day.� A certain nameless fairly new guildy posted that there was 1 spot open for a DPS in his Hound run. My response: Dude, the puppies are the DPS in there.� �A Bard, a Cleric, and 10 Hordos could get a completion.� Take anyone that wants to come. Oh, so full of /win.... but I hate you nevertheless ROFL!

	I am the Rabbi, goo goo g'Jew! Who doesn't <3 Gornn? GORNN II 4:3:17 - For Gornn sent not Hordo into the world to save the party; but that the party through him might be wiped. [QUOTE=404error;4155294]Hordo I don't want to steal you from these forums because your almost an icon here. ;p [/quote]
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #18 - Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	Hordo wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:38pm: Oh, so full of /win.... but I hate you nevertheless ROFL!� Have you thoroughly corrupted little Vulkora yet? He had so much potential and fell into the likes of you.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #19 - Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 2:08am	Print Post
	Sirea wrote on Nov 30^th, 2010 at 4:10am: Just about as stupid as the people who put "need cleric with DI or Dark Monk" in Abbot LFMs. Both are WAI and not considered exploits.

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Sirea Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 205 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #20 - Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 7:13pm	Print Post
	Strakeln wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 2:08am: Both are WAI and not considered exploits. I have a PM that says otherwise (at least for DI).


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Hordo High Rabbi Offline Le Douchebag Posts: 2405 Location: Cordova, Tennessee Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #21 - Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 11:59am	Print Post
	Sirea wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2010 at 7:13pm: I have a PM that says otherwise (at least for DI). A PM from whom? If I can dig through and find them I have a convo with three different GMs at different times regarding the DI question as I was asked to officially find out for Loreseekers if that was cool or not when we were doing our Abbot practice/training and got responses from +Sparker+ and a couple of others whom I forget at the moment telling me directly that the DI was NOT considered an exploit. It was as a result of those conversations that I ok'd the practice for Loreseekers Guild runs. We have VERY strict rules regarding exploits or possible exploits and you can rest assured that if we do it with me in the party, I've personally gotten the word from a Dev that it is ok to do, or it is being done without my knowledge.

	I am the Rabbi, goo goo g'Jew! Who doesn't <3 Gornn? GORNN II 4:3:17 - For Gornn sent not Hordo into the world to save the party; but that the party through him might be wiped. [QUOTE=404error;4155294]Hordo I don't want to steal you from these forums because your almost an icon here. ;p [/quote]
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Hordo High Rabbi Offline Le Douchebag Posts: 2405 Location: Cordova, Tennessee Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #22 - Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 12:01pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 12:50pm: Have you thoroughly corrupted little Vulkora yet? He had so much potential and fell into the likes of you. Not thoroughly yet...but it is a process...

	I am the Rabbi, goo goo g'Jew! Who doesn't <3 Gornn? GORNN II 4:3:17 - For Gornn sent not Hordo into the world to save the party; but that the party through him might be wiped. [QUOTE=404error;4155294]Hordo I don't want to steal you from these forums because your almost an icon here. ;p [/quote]
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Sirea Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 205 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #23 - Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 4:16pm	Print Post
	Hordo wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 11:59am: A PM from whom? If I can dig through and find them I have a convo with three different GMs at different times regarding the DI question as I was asked to officially find out for Loreseekers if that was cool or not when we were doing our Abbot practice/training and got responses from +Sparker+ and a couple of others whom I forget at the moment telling me directly that the DI was NOT considered an exploit.� It was as a result of those conversations that I ok'd the practice for Loreseekers Guild runs.� We have VERY strict rules regarding exploits or possible exploits and you can rest assured that if we do it with me in the party, I've personally gotten the word from a Dev that it is ok to do, or it is being done without my knowledge. Quote: Hey, Thanks for bugging the issue. It is a known issue and I am unsure of the time line for the fix at the moment. I have had discussions with Eladrin and other devs about setting up quest "death volumes" to bypass what ever we give players as a death preventative measure. This issue has appeared before in a similar manner with death pact. As far as if it is an exploit I believe we are airing on the side of yes it is because it is not intended behavior and bypasses a raid mechanic. As far as what you feel might be an exploit let me know if you feel it is questionable. I am usually prompt and quick with my responses if you are concerned with being banned. I do a daily round of conversations with the various developer leads and tolero/tarrant on bugs and PM's I receive and should have a definitive answer for you quickly. DDO QA 404error Wouldn't be the first time there was a disconnect between the GMs and the devs.
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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Window Farming Rumor Reply #24 - Dec 4^th, 2010 at 7:21pm	Print Post
	Sirea wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 4:16pm: Wouldn't be the first time there was a disconnect between the GMs and the devs. Very interesting. I'll have to check with my source to see if he has a PM to quote as well.

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