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flynnjsw Shroud Slacker Offline F U All!!!!!! Posts: 1216 Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Good player/Better player Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:04am	Print Post
	I consider myself a pretty good player. I know I am not the best player, I know my limitations fairly well, and I know that there are ways to get better. What I want to know, mostly from those that have run with me; what can I do to be a better player. Anyone that has not run with me and has general advice would be helpful as well. Also, is there a ToD Ring planner like there is for Greensteel? I pulled my first ring yesterday so I need to start looking at what I want to add to it. If this would be better suited in the Guides section or anywhere else, feel free to move it.
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #1 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:10am	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:04am: I consider myself a pretty good player. I know I am not the best player, I know my limitations fairly well, and I know that there are ways to get better. What I want to know, mostly from those that have run with me; what can I do to be a better player. Anyone that has not run with me and has general advice would be helpful as well. Also, is there a ToD Ring planner like there is for Greensteel? I pulled my first ring yesterday so I need to start looking at what I want to add to it. If this would be better suited in the Guides section or anywhere else, feel free to move it. Flynn, I use the wiki to make my rings. I will find the link for you and post here. Here http://ddowiki.com/page/Incredible_Potential and here http://ddowiki.com/page/Altar_of_Subjugation_-_Raw_Ingredients_Recipes
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	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #2 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:41am	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:04am: I consider myself a pretty good player. I know I am not the best player, I know my limitations fairly well, and I know that there are ways to get better. What I want to know, mostly from those that have run with me; what can I do to be a better player. Anyone that has not run with me and has general advice would be helpful as well. Also, is there a ToD Ring planner like there is for Greensteel? I pulled my first ring yesterday so I need to start looking at what I want to add to it. If this would be better suited in the Guides section or anywhere else, feel free to move it. Advice is hard to give when some people have no clue as to what you play... Con is not a dump stat!

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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flynnjsw Shroud Slacker Offline F U All!!!!!! Posts: 1216 Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #3 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:43am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:41am: Advice is hard to give when some people have no clue as to what you play... Con is not a� dump stat!� My main, and my first capped character is Paladdium a Wf Paladin. My second is Cmbtcorpsman, a Human Evoker FvS. Paladdium is actually going to be TR'd probably friday night/Saturday to a Soul Survivor WF FvS. Con not being a dump stat is something I know for sure...lol.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #4 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:46am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:10am: Flynn, I use the wiki to make my rings. I will find the link for you and post here. Here http://ddowiki.com/page/Incredible_Potential and here http://ddowiki.com/page/Altar_of_Subjugation_-_Raw_Ingredients_Recipes I do the same and never have had an issue. (Rahkirs and Ravager)

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #5 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:58am	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:04am: I consider myself a pretty good player. I know I am not the best player, I know my limitations fairly well, and I know that there are ways to get better. I think you have everything you need to get better in that statement. Knowing your limitations, improving your equipment, and learning the quests (repetitiveness) is a good way to improve. Playing with different people and different styles is a good way to learn too. Example - I have leveled lowbies a few times now. There is zerg and then there is "omg, we just finished this quest in 5 mins and it usually takes 30". Leveling with Breaken, or Mts is like that that. Breaken is easier on you, he will wait and explain stuff. Mts expects you to know where you need to be most of the time and that you can take care of yourself. Running like that puts a lot of pressure on you to get better. 30 mins with Aranticus is still the most I improved at any one time. He knows his stuff.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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flynnjsw Shroud Slacker Offline F U All!!!!!! Posts: 1216 Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #6 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 11:56am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:58am: I think you have everything you need to get better in that statement. Knowing your limitations, improving your equipment, and learning the quests (repetitiveness) is a good way to improve. Playing with different people and different styles is a good way to learn too. Example - I have leveled lowbies a few times now. There is zerg and then there is "omg, we just finished this quest in 5 mins and it usually takes 30". Leveling with Breaken, or Mts is like that that. Breaken is easier on you, he will wait and explain stuff. Mts expects you to know where you need to be most of the time and that you can take care of yourself. Running like that puts a lot of pressure on you to get better. 30 mins with Aranticus is still the most I improved at any one time. He knows his stuff. I know that there are some ares that I need to learn a lot better. Like Gianthold; Pala completly skipped GH in his first life. Cmbt had a bunch of relics passed to him, so he only had to run the quests once each. I know Vale failry well, and I can find the quests in Amarath. Sands I am actually getting better at; I can reliably find may way to OOB, Wiz-King (which is the easiest obv), and ADQ1 reliably. CoF on the other hand... As far as the Raids go; I have really only solo'd Chrono, VoN 5 I need to learn ( I can find my way to the top, but the other parts like the Voice and that stuff still get me lost), I need to learn how to do the switches in Reaver, Shroud I am comfortable enough to lead, VoD I am comfortable enough to lead, HoX I can lead but I still have a bit of an issue getting there without following the herd, and ToD I could probably lead with people I knew.


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TWDiggs Mr. Infraction Offline Posts: 1841 Joined: Jul 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #7 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 1:55pm	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:04am: I consider myself a pretty good player. I know I am not the best player, I know my limitations fairly well, and I know that there are ways to get better. What I want to know, mostly from those that have run with me; what can I do to be a better player. Anyone that has not run with me and has general advice would be helpful as well. Also, is there a ToD Ring planner like there is for Greensteel? I pulled my first ring yesterday so I need to start looking at what I want to add to it. If this would be better suited in the Guides section or anywhere else, feel free to move it. Download the crafting planner from here. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=137347 It has some pretty cool feature including a puzzle solver for just about every puzzle in the game.

	stainer wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 1:29pm: Everyday that you aren't banned, is a borrowed day. Grace wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2012 at 8:31pm: Well, you're a godless heathen, anyway. I would totally wear my rape whistle around you.
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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #8 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	Yeah, that's the link I was trying to find to send to you via PM. Couldn't find it. It's very handy, and runs outside a browser function on the PC. Oftentimes, I use that to track raid timers/plan crafting for shroud and tod. If you are running with the big dogs I'd say you are coming along just fine. Anything you'd need to pick up along the way is either being taught or demonstrated for you. The pace can be a problem sometimes, which means you may want to consider pugging some too. I had the honor of running with Aranticus on occasion when he had pugs going. The same is true of some of the more notable players here and the official forum. Some of what they pass to you in terms of knowledge doesn't flower until you are running your own groups or in someone else's. At least, that's how it's gone for me so far. You end up appreciating help like that more when you find yourself on your own in a tight spot within a group. As a fairly new player myself I'd also mention that knowing what you can't or have trouble doing really helps. You'd be surprised at how many people that know more speak up and help you out.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #9 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 8:56pm	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:43am: My main, and my first capped character is Paladdium a Wf Paladin. My second is Cmbtcorpsman, a Human Evoker FvS. Paladdium is actually going to be TR'd probably friday night/Saturday to a Soul Survivor WF FvS. Con not being a dump stat is something I know for sure...lol. Well I missed most of it, and it was already stated. If you played on Argo I could help out more. Always happy to analyze any build you have though I do it for several guilds on Argo, it really is my favorite part of the game.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #10 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 9:03pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:58am: Breaken is easier on you, he will wait and explain stuff. Mts expects you to know where you need to be most of the time and that you can take care of yourself. Running like that puts a lot of pressure on you to get better. 30 mins with Aranticus is still the most I improved at any one time. He knows his stuff. Eh if you had a toon on argo runs with me would be very similar to Mts, whomever that is. I only explain stuff in raids, this is just because i want to make sure everyone knows what they are doing, and when they fuck up, they cannot use the excuse i didnt know. Because I will call them out, then I will fucking bitch and whine about it. I hate failure, I do no tolerate it, even with my guildies. Part of the reason I am not an officer anymore i assume, I will boot the fucker the causes me to fail my raid.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Breaken Horoluth Raider Offline Go^Yourself Posts: 2013 Location: TEXAS Joined: Jul 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #11 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 9:38pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:58am: I think you have everything you need to get better in that statement. Knowing your limitations, improving your equipment, and learning the quests (repetitiveness) is a good way to improve. Playing with different people and different styles is a good way to learn too. Example - I have leveled lowbies a few times now. There is zerg and then there is "omg, we just finished this quest in 5 mins and it usually takes 30". Leveling with Breaken, or Mts is like that that. Breaken is easier on you, he will wait and explain stuff. Mts expects you to know where you need to be most of the time and that you can take care of yourself. Running like that puts a lot of pressure on you to get better. 30 mins with Aranticus is still the most I improved at any one time. He knows his stuff. Very true, Me and mt leveled or wizards up together was tons of fun. And yes when i am leveling in a grp i will give general directions and shit like that while i am zerging off. But have a low tolerance for tard, i think i may have an allergy should get that tested. I think anytime me and shug ran together it was just a giant pissing contest, but we always kept it friendly with respect for each other, he will be missed

	Quote: Breaken's just a weird asshole, divorcced and pathetically marvelling at talk of sex. That guy is fucked IMHO. People I really don't like here list is small. Not that you or anyone should care, but for me it is Calvet, because he's stupid in a bitchy drama way, and Breaken, but he is a liar and a blunt, inelegant angry guy
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Breaken Horoluth Raider Offline Go^Yourself Posts: 2013 Location: TEXAS Joined: Jul 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #12 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 9:39pm	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:04am: I consider myself a pretty good player. I know I am not the best player, I know my limitations fairly well, and I know that there are ways to get better. What I want to know, mostly from those that have run with me; what can I do to be a better player. Anyone that has not run with me and has general advice would be helpful as well. Also, is there a ToD Ring planner like there is for Greensteel? I pulled my first ring yesterday so I need to start looking at what I want to add to it. If this would be better suited in the Guides section or anywhere else, feel free to move it. Guild website has link to the crafter/puzzlesolver/maps/raidtimer etc..

	Quote: Breaken's just a weird asshole, divorcced and pathetically marvelling at talk of sex. That guy is fucked IMHO. People I really don't like here list is small. Not that you or anyone should care, but for me it is Calvet, because he's stupid in a bitchy drama way, and Breaken, but he is a liar and a blunt, inelegant angry guy
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Milton Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 746 Joined: Sep 24^th, 2010	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #13 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:49pm	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 10:04am: What I want to know, mostly from those that have run with me; what can I do to be a better player. Anyone that has not run with me and has general advice would be helpful as well. General advice... Do you know your limitations? Good, now minimize or remove those limitations through play style and/or gear. Never use a solver, they are crutches and it doesn't take long at all to understand puzzles and how they can be solved. Also using your brain helps you to think critically, which also can benefit you in game. Ambition is key, don't be afraid of dying... it happens. You've prolly mastered the whole Zerg/Smash way of playing, maybe start trying some more elegant solutions. There's always more than one way to skin an emu. Know the game... and by know I mean, have personal knowledge of it. Take everything said by "The community" with a very large grain of salt, and then go test it and see for yourself... or use your melon to find ways around it.


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- Jay Korthos Resident Offline RAWR~! Posts: 86 Location: Earth (apparently) Joined: Mar 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #14 - Jan 27^th, 2011 at 11:23pm	Print Post
	my personal philosophy to not suck "rely not on your equipment, but on your abilities" :D:D:D


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Blank_Zero Ex Member	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #15 - Jan 28^th, 2011 at 12:32am	Print Post
	You did awesome healing on Cmbt in Axer's first run. I wanted to ask him to put you on base 1 with me though. That WF FvS was a bit slow on heals >.>


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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #16 - Jan 28^th, 2011 at 7:02am	Print Post
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Chris79 Stormreaver Piker Offline Wanna a lollipop? Posts: 569 Location: Australia Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #17 - Jan 28^th, 2011 at 7:41am	Print Post
	Astraghal wrote on Jan 28^th, 2011 at 7:02am: I can teach you to be uber, but I charge by the minute. I'll give you the first lesson for free: Don't kill the puppies in hound, I saw you kill one the other day while flailing about wildly with your 2-hander. It caught a proc of someone's earthgrab guard and you killed it. Maybe it wouldn't have died if it wasn't in auto-crit, but you were totally oblivious of it and sloppy play like that is the root of all failure. That advice could have been delivered without the stick taken from your own ass Just sayin is all....

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flynnjsw Shroud Slacker Offline F U All!!!!!! Posts: 1216 Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #18 - Jan 28^th, 2011 at 11:40am	Print Post
	Astraghal wrote on Jan 28^th, 2011 at 7:02am: I can teach you to be uber, but I charge by the minute. I'll give you the first lesson for free: Don't kill the puppies in hound, I saw you kill one the other day while flailing about wildly with your 2-hander. It caught a proc of someone's earthgrab guard and you killed it. Maybe it wouldn't have died if it wasn't in auto-crit, but you were totally oblivious of it and sloppy play like that is the root of all failure. You're right, I was totally oblivious to it. I am not going to bother trying to give YOU an explanation for it however.


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flynnjsw Shroud Slacker Offline F U All!!!!!! Posts: 1216 Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #19 - Jan 28^th, 2011 at 11:45am	Print Post
	Quote: You did awesome healing on Cmbt in Axer's first run. I wanted to ask him to put you on base 1 with me though. That WF FvS was a bit slow on heals >.> Thanks. The thing that makes me nervous about healing in situations like that is knockdown. I know in most of the Raids you have multiple healers, but in standard quests I am usually solo healing, and knockdown at a bad time can cause an unneccisary death. Actually typing that out makes me realize that it is something I need to improve on.


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Blank_Zero Ex Member	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #20 - Jan 28^th, 2011 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jan 28^th, 2011 at 11:45am: Thanks. The thing that makes me nervous about healing in situations like that is knockdown. I know in most of the Raids you have multiple healers, but in standard quests I am usually solo healing, and knockdown at a bad time can cause an unneccisary death. Actually typing that out makes me realize that it is something I need to improve on. There are no Con6/Balance15 Belts in the game though...not even RR =(


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Astraghal Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 883 Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010	Re: Good player/Better player Reply #21 - Jan 29^th, 2011 at 5:41pm	Print Post
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