Strakeln wrote on Mar 24^th, 2011 at 8:43pm:


Boatman, stop trying to post, you're killing the server.

Epoch wrote on Mar 25^th, 2011 at 3:46am:


How can you obtain enough Khyber Dragonshard fragments to use TtS routinely? It's 1,125 a cast for the big version. (I assume the frost giants need the big version.)

Auran wrote on Mar 24^th, 2011 at 9:35pm:


Awesome. I'm a one-man DOS attack.

Epoch wrote on Mar 25^th, 2011 at 5:14am:


Hmm...maybe it's time I started running raids that aren't Shroud or Reaver.

Hey look - a(n almost) free weekend!

Redweaver wrote on Mar 25^th, 2011 at 8:42am:



See, that is what I think. 

Who cares if the sp regen is at 200.  People will wait enough sp for an extended haste - sometimes.  No more.  Well, unless you are flower sniffer.  That is a completely different issue though, and one that should be fixed.

Emili wrote on Mar 25^th, 2011 at 5:17pm:


FTS is a womans spell, I am all male.

Bettin' on 1 and 3.

But may I offer an alternative:

Once mana drops to the threshold level of X, mana continues to be lost even though no spells are cast.

Hi Welcome wrote on Mar 26^th, 2011 at 9:17am:

Yes... but whatever they change it to for higher levels will remain useless.

Emili wrote on Mar 25^th, 2011 at 5:17pm:


Dammit, Emili, I spat gin and tonic all over my keyboard

Looks like they're not scaling that regen cap.

popejubal wrote on Mar 27^th, 2011 at 2:13am:

Hah, agreed.

JC wrote on Mar 28^th, 2011 at 9:24pm:


I would rather not chloroform myself.


... shit, said that out loud didn't I?

Cyr wrote on Mar 29^th, 2011 at 10:54am:

It's a pretty fast regen. I took a 16 WF wizard into the vale, and pissed away SP as fast as I could. Once I got below 12, it regenned 4sp every 2 seconds, iirc. So if I dropped down to 11 SP, I would regen to the cap of 15 SP.

Most of the SLAs are 1-6 SP. Scorching ray is now 6 SP. With 1 SP hypno, 3 SP Otto's Resistable, and 6 SP hold, I could easily pull and destroy one mob at a time in the Vale slayer area, by either kiting, dancing, or holding them. It was like being a ranged ranger - Pew Pew Pew. It didn't take as long as I though it would, either.

I went into the Sands and did the same thing - after dumping all my SP and then using only the SP regen, I relied on SLA and Scorching Ray to work my way through the undead area. I took down the rare air elemental (and 3-4 others), took down one red-named gnoll, and was working on Vovund Darkfur when I aggro'd too many mobs, forgot that I had hypnotize, got tripped, and overwhelmed.

Still, two red-named and another 50 kills at level 16 in the sands only took 2-3 times longer using only SP regen as it would on a farming run.

It will be nice when leveling for those rare occasions that I run out of SP. It's not something I expect to need other than for emergencies and leveling. The pew pew playstyle doesn't appeal to me, whittling down mob HP one arcane bolt at a time. I don't see it being terribly useful for people at cap, raiding, or epics.

However, I can see it getting me to the next shrine without wasting resources. For people with capped characters, time >> resources, so moot point. I'll scroll heal with my cleric before I'll try to heal up a high level party using cheap CMW/CSW and SP regen.

I see this making it easier for newbies - it is slow enough and you need to play with enough caution that it isn't overpowered. It only allows unlimited casting if you know how to pull mobs and use some tactics. If you can do that, you're rarely going to run out of SP anyways.

The time required for newbies to learn decent SP conservation just increased though. I remember hating my first arcane caster when I started playing the game, so having some training wheels isn't an entirely bad thing.