Boatman wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 5:19am:


You forgot wiz king.  Firewall makes it soooooooooooo much easier. 

Kimberlite wrote on Mar 21^st, 2011 at 8:34pm:

I sense a khopesh-nerf coming. They might wait for GS deconstruction, using the tech from the new crafting system maybe, or not. But it seems that 2011 is the year of rubbing out old staples in DDO-land, and the khopesh is as all know the de facto standard.

And it would make role-players & noobs happy, while pissing off veteran players, so that's right up the Dev's alley.

Emili wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 2:18am:



I think the new instant-kill rotation spell will be Circle of Death.  Alternate CoD and FoD, Wail when it's available.  That still seems like it will do a decent job of clearing trash, just maybe not as efficiently as previously.  Anything with a cooldown of more than 30 seconds is basically either "once per encounter" or "once per rest".

Epoch wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 8:56am:


I was actually shocked by that recently.  I was *sure* that Clay Golems were immune to fire and then two of them died when I threw a maximised Fireball at a Mummy that was standing next to them.

Surprised the hell out of me.

popejubal wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 9:13am:



Yeah to be fair I learned about it by casting firewall right where the mummy is and then triggering the room.  Then I saw two yellow ticks and was like, OMFG, this quest just became easier on the sp.

Epoch wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 8:56am:


Shit. I don't hide it well, either, do I?

Would have made the waterfall encounter in Tear a bunch less painful as well if I'd realised that.

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Apparently I ran Boatman through it in October last year.

popejubal wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 9:13am:

See - Pope's a noob too!   

Inkblack wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 10:03am:



Hahaha, I still do it as well.  if it is a 120+ I tell them part 4 better not go more then one round or I'm leaving.  I hold true to it unless arry is at ~5% for round 2.

I generally like the changes to spell point costs based on effectiveness.  Making damage spells less costly will help, particularly at low levels where mana is at a premium.  Scorching Ray was already a low level favorite of mine and now its even better.  Lightning Bolt looks nice too. 

The changes to WoF make sense, although I'd rather see them make extend still work and just cut the base duration to get the same results (SP cost and duration). 

The CD changes on all the insta-death spells seem off.  Wail is too high.  I love PWK getting the HP barrier removed, but to slap it with such a long CD timer is redonc.  Even for a spell with no save. 

The SP regen thing is a dangerous thing, but by limiting it to 12 sp I think they keep it from being a problem.  Some jackass suggested 60 sp (or 10+5 per caster level or some such crap) as the regen point.  That would be assinine.  There would be virtually no point in mana conservation at those levels.  Enough for some PrE enhancements, wings, or a level 1 spell is cool though. 

Clearly the goal is to help low level and noob casters with the reduced mana costs on damage spells, diversify spell choices at mid-high levels, and help casters be more than just CC/buffers in epics. 

It's kinda odd.  levels 17-20 end game/non-epic content most all about the insta-kill for casters.  To combat that, they had to nerf the most common insta-kill options (like wail), but then to prevent epic casting getting pigeionholed as CC only they remove the death wards (encouraging the use of insta-kill).  So it's kinda conflicting how they are reducing the effectiveness of insta-kill but then trying to encourage usage in epics at the same time.

Sirea wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 4:24pm:


Why is the old way always better?  Everyone bitched and moaned about not enough spells were worthwhile.  Epic content made casters a one trick poney.  WoF is an easy button. 

I for one don't see this as a dumbing down/slippery slope/easy button.  I see it more as a rebalancing to fix current inequity in the spell list. 

The only "easy button" I see in the whole thing was the mana regen concept.  By capping it at 12 SP, though, they made it a non-issue.  If that cap goes up, then you have an easy button concern. 

The rest of it is actually weakening most of the "top spells".  There were very few spells that got improved.  If it were an "Easy button" scenario, I would think you would not see any nerfs and see more spells with increased capability. 

WoF - Clearly weaker
Wail - Clearly weaker
Auto-Crits gone on Holds - Clearly weaker

Not seeing a whole lot of easy button there...

Never said that the old way was better, just that clearing portals wasn't impossible before WotB. People are acting like it's going to be this huge chore now that it has a longer cooldown, when we had perfectly viable ways of clearing them way before Wail was in the game.

In other words, I'm calling out all the people crying doooooooooooooooooooooooom. So you wont be able to spam it anymore, BFD.

The part I took issue with was Torc's wording when justifying some of these changes:

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People make casters out to be so hard to play. Ever thought that maybe they just aren't for everyone? Just like the people who bitch and whine about Necro being sooooooooo haaaaaaaaard. If you don't like it, don't play it. I think the devs needs to let go of the train of thought that EVERYTHING has to be accessible to EVERYONE, therefore dumbing down the entire game in the process. God forbid someone *gasp* has a hard time doing/learning something. End of ze world!

You only become a one-trick pony if you allow yourself to get boxed into the "best" strategies and can't allow a single brain cell to think of different ways to do things, or that there may possibly be more than THE ONE ULTIMATE WAY to accomplish a goal.

Soul wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 5:11pm:


Just you wait, divine casters'll be next 

Soul wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2011 at 5:17pm:


That was supposedly part of U8, but it never seemed to actually take place.

I get that question a lot. HEY AREN'T WINGS BEING NERFED???!?!?! ?>!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!??

No... you fucking moron... Someone was trolling the forums.