Cant talk about this on the 'other' forums since mods are nuking any reference just like the drowsing rods. Using past actions this will likely not be an exploit,,, just a hush hush and pray the gaming base at large doesnt find out about it

Anyhooooooooo.....

In case anyone was wondering how some guilds are getting 1-2mil renown per day here is how.

Make 5mules/drones characters. level 1 is fine. put them into a dummy guild account so they can receive renown but wont effect your renown. invite them onto your airship with gold seal tele npc(the lvl3 one) and have them tele to reavers refuge. Yes yes this is an endrun around game mechanics

now comes the grind...  take your lvl 18-20 guilded toon and clear outdoor zone. have all drones give you draconic runes while they are in chest. rinse repeat till drones are ransacked in all outdoor area's.
Delete drones and make new ones... rinse repeat.

Drink 100% guild boost pot with lvl 18 that now has 15k draconics ground out over a couple days. (i know insane grind) Turn in 25 draconics at a time for renown token.

And your now level 100

Boatman wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:08pm:


a 6 account(@lvl100) guilds decay is about 15k per day... so years if nobody plays

I couldn't figure out how to actually get a meaningful number of runes since it only drops a couple per chest, but if you had 5 dummies with you in a quest, then I can see how that would add up.

If they saved up their tokens for a couple of weeks, then they could pretty easily just zoom up the charts.

Doesn't actually sound like any more of an exploit to me than dual boxing and having one character pike at the entrance while a WF Wizard or Sorcerer just blasts his way through a mid level quest for XP.

Desert would be more efficient on a per person farming basis if it weren't for the 5 mules that are multiplying the rune farming. 

AMAZINGLY tedious way to get renown, IMO.

mystafyi wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:10pm:


OG, my guild loses almost 200K/day at L80/81. This guild level system sucks lol


The interesting part of this to me is if its an exploit, why hasn't that guild been banned/warned/stripped of guild level. If its not an exploit why delete references to it on the forums? I'll never figure out Turbine policy.

If you don't want the player base at large and, via those people, Turbine to know about this, posting in an open forum that Turbine employees are known to lurk is probably not the brightest ever.

But, considering how fucking dumb the idea is, probably not that surprising.

So, let me get this straight. 

You need 6 different accounts, all with the reaver's refuge pack or VIP. 

Then you need 6 instances of DDO running. 

Then you need to move all 6 to the refuge

Then into one of the adventure areas. 

Then one toon runs around and checks all the rares and kills any spawns.  Loots Chests.

Then after that, you cycle through running each of the other 5 over to the chests to to get the runes. 

Zone all toons out and move them to the next adventure area and repeat for the other two zones. 

Then back to the first zone and repeat 6 more times for all three zones until ransacked. 

Then you create 5 more toons and do it again.

So that's probably 10-15 minutes per adventure area.  Say 3 -4 min to check/clear all 3 rare spots and 2 minutes for each of the drones to be ran around to the chests.

You probably average 2 rares per instance and 4 runes per toon.

So that 48 runes per instance x 3 instances x 7 till ransack. 

For a total of 1,050 per ransack group.  (Drops to 840 on subsequent groups because the active, clearing toon is ransacked). 

Each group takes about 5 hours to get the 1000 (average) runes. 

You can trade in 50 runes for a reward, so that is around 20 rewards for every 5 hours of work.

And, lets say you average 500 as an average favor reward from that.  With a small guild bonus and a boost on.  That's around 1600 per. 

So that's 1600 x 20 = 32k of favor for 5 hours of boring work. 

That's not an exploit.  It's lame.

Let's say I'm wrong somewhere and it's 3 times as cool as that.  It's worth 96k per 5 hours.  And you do it 10 hours per day.  That's 200k of renown per day.

So, to get to 50,000,000 (with no decay) it will take around 250 days to get a guild level 100 guild for you and you alone to enjoy. 

With no time to explore any other quests, get epic gear, try new builds, TR, etc.

Um...no thanks.  I'd rather spend 3/4 of a year making bad ass toons and playing well enough to join an end game level guild that has a guild level that high already.  And make some friends in the process.

I got my very first deleted post on the official forum for explaining this, along with +rep for "N/A". I feel like one of the cool kids now!

I agree there's no real reason to punish the guilds that did this. They've already punished themselves enough.

But it seems like it would be an easy fix. There's just no good reason to have renown in the lists for turning in tokens or runes. And there's also no good reason for draconic runes to be passable in chests. Fixing either of those would take care of this.

[Edited because I mistyped like a moron.]

Cardtrick wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:

Actually that's not how Rebellion is doing it all, you fucking nub. One of the quests in the Droamm pack is bugged so that it lets you get an end reward every time you talk to one of the NPCs. You just keep taking reknown until you win the game.


Shut the fuck up if you have no idea what you're talking about.

I consistently get impressive or legendary guild renown tokens from end reward for IQ2 quests. That would be a better way to do it.

Still shit boring tho

Eladiun wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 1:47pm:


Heh, I'm sorry -- I meant draconic tokens. Although, I suppose it's also true that there's no good reason to be able to pass renown in chests, either . . .

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Turbine knows. They deleted the posts with details on their forums.

Soul wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 3:54pm:



RAWR