Disruptors, banishers, and smiters just got changed to vopal procs, but they do get greater bane damage, but not the + to hit...  Not so sure about this change... T

Melee death effects on items (and the rogue assassin enhancement) have been redesigned.
For targets with more than 1,000 hit points, vorpal no longer kills and instead hits the target for 100 points of bane damage. If a creature has less than 1,000 hit points, the vorpal effect is applied on a confirmed natural 20 as before.
NEW: Disruption, Banishing, and Smiting weapons now do 4d6 damage on a hit, and have a chance to kill the target outright on a confirmed vorpal hit (natural 20) if the target is below 1,000 hit points. If the target has more than 1,000 hit points, they will take 100 damage. Hit die caps and saving throws have been removed from these weapons.
Weapons with the Greater Disruption effect deal 6d6 additional damage on any hit instead.
Greater Disruption Guard will apply its death effect with no saving throw at its previous percentage chance, but will not deal additional damage.
Banishing Fists will grant the vorpal banishing effect to unarmed attacks, but will not do an additional 4d6 damage

Eladiun wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 3:08pm:


Don't you know Eladrin thinks that all archers should sit around for ten minutes at the beginning of each quest getting beaten on by mobs while some poor sob sits there healing them so they can benefit from the uber arrows that the quiver makes.

Oh and the smiting/banisher change really is nerf for lower level play with a buff for high level play (where they just didn't work before).  Not sure wtf the point of it was, but hey greater disruption is now better then disruption so at least there is something.

The Smiting/Banishing/Disruption/Vorpal change looks like a massive boost to me.

Smiting/Banishing - kill anything that has less than 1000 HP on a crit
Disruption - kill anything that has less than 1000 HP on a failed save on every hit
Vorpal - kill anything that has less than 1000 HP on a 20.
OR do 100 untyped damage under the same circumstances to anything with 1000+ HP

AND do 4d6 (I'm guessing untyped) damage per hit in addition to that.

How is that a nerf?

Thinking about this some more...  Holy Burst (to a lesser extent Shocking/Anarchic) of Banishing on non-Amarath devils that's gonna be pretty sick.

I somehow missed the fact that Disruption/Banishing/Smiting all happen only on a 20 now.

The fact that they offer a "chance" of killing sounds like they still offer a save.

That is a definate nerf for Disruption.  Might be a nerf or a boost to Banishing/Smiting depending on your DPS and the crit range of the weapon.

popejubal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 4:04pm:



It'll work just like Vorps on a Confirmed Crit.  No save.  After a certain point...the desert maybe...disruptors sucked compared to my Greater Banes because everything saved.

Ya, most shit saved on everything but a 20 beyond the desert as the DC was so low.  At least now we'll get that 4D6 additional damage per hit as we beat them to death (undeath) and do not have to see that damn blue hex over their heads every swing. 

Not a nerf in my book other than my stash of lvl 8 RR Epic twink weaps is now devalued

popejubal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 4:34pm:


Banishing Fist doesn't give the 4D6 but otherwise that works.

popejubal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:



cuz by the time shit has gotten to less than a 1000 hit points it is only 10 swings or so away from death usually.
Thus it is pretty useless.

Anything like a giant skellie with a large hit point pool...well, long way to 'under 1000'.

it makes banishers a bitch...sell you banishing rapiers now..

oh yea, smite/banish/etc..only on a natural 20.

fuck that shit...time to get rid of the 'big 5' right in the arse.

I should also mention that Vorpal weapons are not listed as getting the 4d6 bonus damage in the release notes.

I mostly mention that because I misread the release notes as saying that they did.

I'm pretty sure that someone cast a Mind Fog over my computer for all of the reading comprehension errors that I've had over the past few day.

Cyr wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 3:49pm:


This is true. It's a nice boost for my rogue.

Those banishers, smiters, disruptors, and vorpals were too uber.

What is the point of a vorpal if it does not cut off their head?  I am pretty sure the big idea of D&D of a vorpal was to cut off the head. 

I propose we no longer call it a vorpal. 

How about vorpew?

NEW (Lammania Only): The Bow of Sinew now grants players an effect called Elasticity, which adds a +1 to a player's critical multiplier on a roll of 19 or 20. This effect replaces the Ranged Alacrity 10% effect on the item.


I saw that and thought, "Zexxi is gonna shit."