ahem, 'The Hatchery' is good

Farmed von 5 today, went well.  Went into von 6, went well until I told everyone to group at the door before velah and refresh songs and haste there.  Apparently, it was to far out of the norm and this caused everything to become a clusterfuck.  Some idiot though the threshold and started it, one guy was locked out, so many noobs died.  The 2 healers despite my saying otherwise, were raising people just in time to get swatted by a wing blast killing them again and causing the dps on velah to die since neither of them were healing them.  Beat her down to sliver then I solo beat her down to 1/2 hp several times before calling it quits. 

Big disappointment.

stainer wrote on Apr 27^th, 2011 at 2:54pm:



Damn, no mention of us at all.

Asheras wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 9:16am:

I was just about to respond in a similar fashion.
Even if you happen to get into a run lead by someone you trust, if it's a pug then you can expect retards on that one.... even more than in any other raid IMO.

Cale wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 9:39am:



Yeah I think when I get home from work today I am just going to run an any level von6.  I still have fantasies of leaving von6 with an sos.  I feed myself lies and propaganda from time to time.

Madcow430 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 9:02am:

I mentioned ones I have ran with a lot, or knew something about. The list is by no means all inclusive.

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Yeah, but see, everyone can find House K.  And Von 3 and 4 are regularly run XP grind quests.

Most Noobs:

1) Couldn't find their own ass with a map, let alone the restless isles.

2) Can't get in if they do because they haven't run HIPS.

3) Can't fathom the idea of a quest chain that starts in the Harbor and then continues in an adventure area off the marketplace.

4)  Can't navigate the undergound/above ground island layout of the isles with the locked doors and keys to get where they need to go. 

5)  Get hopelessly lost in in Slavers of the Shrieking Mines

6)  Get their asses kicked in Ghola-Fan because they don't have heavy fort at level 10/11 and there are only 2 shrines.

7)  Don't get the sigil concept and keep discarding it from inventory.

8)  It has no epic version and most of the loot is meh at this point so it's probably the least run raid period.

9)  It doesn't have a dragon.  Everyone wants to fight a dragon.

As a result of all that you don't get nearly as many morons in it as you do Von5/6.

Unless they were completely carried through the flagging by a friend with a clue, they give up or out level the content before they finish flagging.

Alekx wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:06am:

You might have misinterpreted what I said.

Cale wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 9:55am:


BTW, I wasn't bashing the Titan as a raid.  It's just that if you look at flagging mechanics for the raids, Titan is probably one of the harder ones to get done.  Abbott and Reaver's Fate are worse, as is ToD if you count boots, but
VoN has got to be one of th easist to flag for these days.  Especially since there are pug LFM's up constantly for the flagging quests.  I rarely see a pug LFM for Shrieking Mines or Ghola Fan.

Asheras wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:08am:

You can solo those at lebeleasily they have been dumbed down so much

Asheras wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:08am:



i think right now the toughest raid to pug hast to be titan. I have tried to pug it on my TR but it always ends up being a 4 man run.

Alekx wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 10:17am:


I have one character flagged, and I have never ran it. As a newer player (well not so much now, but I am newer than you), I would have to say it has the stupidest flagging mechanism of all the raids. It is all out of the way too. You start in the harbor long after you have ran those quests. Then you run all over the place to run the two quests. It is not worth the trouble when I can do more productive things.