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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #25 - Jun 4th, 2011 at 5:28pm
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Glenalth wrote on Jun 2nd, 2011 at 2:47pm:
Figured it would be more expensive for unbound, but this isn't too bad and fills in a lot of gaps in leveling for the BtA shards that actually interest me. I don't want to be crafting for others really.


And fuuuuuuu...

Already getting orders from guildies for when this stuff goes live.

Going to just trade essences for the shards so I can level a bit while I'm crafting junk for others.
  
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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #26 - Jun 4th, 2011 at 6:28pm
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Oh my!  Mad magazine references!!!  My feelings are really hurt.  Truly they are. Grin 

Since you just typed out a page or two of mad over a bit of a joke, I'm going to go ahead and assume that you're being serious here.  Sad 

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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #27 - Jun 4th, 2011 at 9:17pm
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Glenalth wrote on Jun 4th, 2011 at 5:28pm:
And fuuuuuuu...

Already getting orders from guildies for when this stuff goes live.

Going to just trade essences for the shards so I can level a bit while I'm crafting junk for others.



Orders for what?

I actually offered to do that for my guildies, but I really can't think of anything other than generic whatever of Invulnerability that is actually worth crafting with Unbound shards.

What do they want you to craft?
  

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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #28 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 2:02am
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Tasty tasty brilliance clickies.
  
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Reply #29 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 3:39pm
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Did I miss something here?

All the recipes are the same lvl....
  
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Reply #30 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 4:20pm
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Did I miss something here?

All the recipes are the same lvl....


Look on the other side of the room.
  

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Reply #31 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 4:25pm
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popejubal wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 4:20pm:
Look on the other side of the room.


I did. Unbound is barely higher in comparison.....
  
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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #32 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 4:38pm
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Bound Greater Ardor 1: level 2
Unbound Greater Ardor 1: level 3

Bound Greater Ardor 3: level 18
Unbound Greater Ardor 3: level 35

Bound Greater Ardor 4: level 28
Unbound Greater Ardor 4 level 55

Bound Holy: 37
Unbound Holy: 73

It looks like Unbound level = 2x Bound level - 1
  

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Reply #33 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 5:08pm
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popejubal wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 4:38pm:
Bound Greater Ardor 1: level 2
Unbound Greater Ardor 1: level 3

Bound Greater Ardor 3: level 18
Unbound Greater Ardor 3: level 35

Bound Greater Ardor 4: level 28
Unbound Greater Ardor 4 level 55

Bound Holy: 37
Unbound Holy: 73

It looks like Unbound level = 2x Bound level - 1


So what's the best new method?
  
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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #34 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 5:41pm
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So what's the best new method?


For all that I like crunching numbers, I haven't dived head first into the optimal path for crafting.

Until level 30, the shards required per level for unbound crafting is almost linear and only shoots up like a quadratic function after that.

Unbound crafting is more expensive when you compare the same shards, but unbound shards are cheaper when you compare level x unbound to level x bound.

It looks to me at first glance that unbound crafting until you run out of shards that cost 3 greater essences that are 10ish levels above your crafting level and then you can bounce back and forth between the two, looking for whatever cheap shards are available until level 30-ish.  From that point on, unbound crafting is going to be a whole lot cheaper most of the time.

There are still some exceptionally cheap shards for their level in unbound crafting even at higher level, so keep your eyes peeled for those as well (generally the Ardor/Beatitude/Inferno/etc).

Also, since you are going to have to craft Shards of Potential anyway, make sure that you craft them while you are leveling.  No sense in throwing away XP by waiting until you have leveled way past them to craft something that you're going to need anyway.  Same for Holy, Pure Good and desireable Bane suffixes (even if they are "too expensive" to craft for XP).  Might as well get XP for something that you are going to craft eventually anyway.
  

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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #35 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 7:32pm
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I'm level 26 I think in Divine now, and the past few levels have been making shards that are worth 40+xp with only 3gd12ld per crunch.

So I can go do the same on the unbound altars eh?

  

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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #36 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 7:54pm
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Anslet wrote on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 8:44am:
I'm so disgruntled with how the crafting has been brought about.

Wasn't there a whole spiel how crafting was to be completed by u10?  HTF is it not in u10?  What a bunch of morons that work at turbine.



No, you are wrong. When they pulled it back in the U9 release they specifically said it would take several releases, AT LEAST 9, 10, and 11.

  
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Reply #37 - Jun 7th, 2011 at 12:42am
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Lorien wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 7:54pm:
No, you are wrong. When they pulled it back in the U9 release they specifically said it would take several releases, AT LEAST 9, 10, and 11.



Probably better to release it in stages so they can more easily react to any issues or oversights that will crop up.

  

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Reply #38 - Jun 7th, 2011 at 2:35am
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... And unbound goes live apparently....

Hmmmmm...
  
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Reply #39 - Jun 7th, 2011 at 3:47am
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... And unbound goes live apparently....

Hmmmmm...


Bound Holy Shard = Level 43
Unbound Holy Shard = Level 73

I don't think I can wait for you or Mil to get to level 60 Tongue
  

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disagree, we are debugging it
Reply #40 - Jun 12th, 2011 at 1:16pm
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Anslet wrote on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 12:21pm:
I think they would have been better off (and we better served) if they didn't present us with a half assed addition to the game.  Here's a brilliant idea... wait until update 11 to unveil it finished instead of giving us incomplete work.

"Oh but they don't know what exploits or other things may come up..."

Here's an idea:  Hire compentent play testers.  If they hired playtesters that were as thorough as their forum police the game would be that much better off.

I really can't see it any other way when even the way they describe it is 'beta'.  Live beta? Really?

Who cares if half a dozen people break it?  I'm pretty sure those same people have done so anyways and yes regardless of what turbine does they continue to do so.


The debugging by Turbine has been horrendous in the past.  Mournlands and Lammannia have completely failed at catching major bugs that have come to live.

By saying Crafting is in Beta, we are debugging it now.  I don't mind that at all.  I want crafting to work.  I just don't want my crafting level to be reset back to 1.
  
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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #41 - Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:54pm
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The cheaper leveling after level 30 with Unbound crafting let me hit crafting level 63 in both divine and arcane this morning.  I wouldn't be even close to that level with just bound crafting.

To celebrate, I made this.  Smiley


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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #42 - Jun 13th, 2011 at 1:53pm
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I have been at 43/35/36 since unbound came out, just gathering essences and deconstructing vendor trash along the way. I should be able to jump some levels next time I try.
  

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Reply #43 - Jun 13th, 2011 at 2:06pm
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popejubal wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:54pm:
The cheaper leveling after level 30 with Unbound crafting let me hit crafting level 63 in both divine and arcane this morning.  I wouldn't be even close to that level with just bound crafting.

To celebrate, I made this.  Smiley

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Thats a sexy weapon you crafted there dude.


Still, consensus amongst my Argo guild is that crafting is just a way of avoiding the Shroud ingredient grind. Regardless, its a nice way to give players other opportunities to create useful gear.
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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #44 - Jun 13th, 2011 at 2:23pm
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Alekx wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 2:06pm:
Thats a sexy weapon you crafted there dude.


Still, consensus amongst my Argo guild is that crafting is just a way of avoiding the Shroud ingredient grind. Regardless, its a nice way to give players other opportunities to create useful gear.


It certainly eliminates the grind for MinII weapons. I think LitII will still be made for some time.
  

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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #45 - Jun 13th, 2011 at 2:47pm
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Alekx wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 2:06pm:
Thats a sexy weapon you crafted there dude.

Still, consensus amongst my Argo guild is that crafting is just a way of avoiding the Shroud ingredient grind.


Yeah, that's pretty much my opinion, too.  There are a few other things you can make, but not much that's really exciting.  The other "big" item that I made was a greater necro focus bracers of whatever suffix I eventually attach.
  

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Reply #46 - Jun 13th, 2011 at 8:50pm
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stainer wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 2:23pm:
It certainly eliminates the grind for MinII weapons. I think LitII will still be made for some time.


I never have to make another min2 again. THat alone was worth the grind to level 64 divine.
  

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Reply #47 - Jun 13th, 2011 at 8:54pm
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I'm hoping for Greater Evocation Focus Bracers from my crafting bitch when that recipe finally shows up.

I'm patient.

I can wait.

A fire absorption something would be sexy, too.

I'm keeping medium slot robes when I find them for lowbie twinking for my TR. Sad thing is, so far they are all disgusting. And given I finally found the model with the smiley faces on the soles of its feet, I may stick to my acid guard robe of invulnerability, lol.
  
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Re: Update 10 unbound crafting
Reply #48 - Jun 13th, 2011 at 9:58pm
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Terebinthia wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 8:54pm:
I'm hoping for Greater Evocation Focus Bracers from my crafting bitch when that recipe finally shows up.


Already in game, made a Greater Evo trinket of Electrical Absorption for my cleric.
  
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Reply #49 - Jun 14th, 2011 at 8:15am
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Bound to character only ATM, though.

Or at least that's what my crafting bitch tells me.

I don't do the crafting thing Smiley
  
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