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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Jun 11^th, 2011 at 9:35am	Print Post
	http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=323166 Go to the Gameplay options and check "Disable Crafting Overwrite Messages". You can then replace prefixes/suffixes directly instead of having to deconstruct the item and start over from scratch. That means I can replace all of my LAwful Outsider Bane with Evil Outsider Bane without making new "Holy" shards and shards of potential.

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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #1 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 12:40pm	Print Post
	That's pretty fucking handy, right there.


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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #2 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 12:45pm	Print Post
	This I like, letting a weapon grow along with the character instead of starting from scratch every time is nice.


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Asketes Puppy Farmer Offline Perma Posts: 1371 Location: California Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #3 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	very awesome!


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Blank_Zero Ex Member	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #4 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 3:31pm	Print Post
	Yayface!


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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #5 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	Couldn't downgrade. I made a +2 holy of undead bane, and realized too late that it was ML11 when I wanted it for a level 10 character. I was unable to do anything when I stuck the weapon into the device with a +1 enhancement shard, trying to downgrade it to a ML9 item. Has anyone else tried that and found out how to make it work? There is a fair amount of suckitude on the lack of prediction on the items ML. I should be able to dump my weapon blank and all of my shards in to the device, and see all of the item details in the final state prior to crafting, along with error messages and how to fix them (ie, two suffix shards present, need a +6, +7 and +8 shard of potential, etc).

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #6 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 4:46pm	Print Post
	Kimberlite wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 3:56pm: Couldn't downgrade. I made a +2 holy of undead bane, and realized too late that it was ML11 when I wanted it for a level 10 character. I was unable to do anything when I stuck the weapon into the device with a +1 enhancement shard, trying to downgrade it to a ML9 item. Has anyone else tried that and found out how to make it work? There is a fair amount of suckitude on the lack of prediction on the items ML. I should be able to dump my weapon blank and all of my shards in to the device, and see all of the item details in the final state prior to crafting, along with error messages and how to fix them (ie, two suffix shards present, need a +6, +7 and +8 shard of potential, etc). This is hands down my biggest problem with crafting. There really needs to be some way to tell what the ML of an item is going to be. I've made some BtA crap for my new Wizard and I end up underpowering shit just so I don't have to worry about potentially overshooting his level. Very frustrating, especially at 4th/5th when I'm just trying to get started. Knowing that I can't downgrade means that I'll probably end up burning a lot of shards doing incremental upgrades, and probably end up falling short a lot of the time again. ><


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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #7 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	I did notice one issue with "cross-grading". The crafting altar assumes that you will be adding the shard to the existing item and it demands a high enough potential on that weapon to allow you to make the change. That means starting with a +4 Holy of Lawful Outsider Bane (+8 total) and changing to a +4 Holy of Evil Outsider Bane will require you to upgrade the potential of the weapon to +10 so that you can "add" the Evil Outsider Bane in addition to the Lawful Outsider Bane. Even though the Lawful Outsider Bane will go away in the process. The end result will still be +8 at the end even though it requires +10 potential to make the change.

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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #8 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	popejubal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 5:20pm: I did notice one issue with "cross-grading".� The crafting altar assumes that you will be adding the shard to the existing item and it demands a high enough potential on that weapon to allow you to make the change.� That means starting with a +4 Holy of Lawful Outsider Bane (+8 total) and changing to a +4 Holy of Evil Outsider Bane will require you to upgrade the potential of the weapon to +10 so that you can "add" the Evil Outsider Bane in addition to the Lawful Outsider Bane.� Even though the Lawful Outsider Bane will go away in the process.� The end result will still be +8 at the end even though it requires +10 potential to make the change. That would be my problem in downgrading from a +2 to a +1. Sounds like a bug, not a feature.

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #9 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 10:24pm	Print Post
	Workaround: Lesser [whatever] outsider bane is a +0 ML shard. Blank out the suffix with that or a similiar prefix if one exists.

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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #10 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 10:51pm	Print Post
	popejubal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 10:24pm: Workaround: Lesser [whatever] outsider bane is a +0 ML shard. Blank out the suffix with that or a similiar prefix if one exists. Any enhancement (or whatever it is called, the +1, +2 before the prefix) shards that do the same?

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #11 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 11:04pm	Print Post
	Kimberlite wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 10:51pm: Any enhancement (or whatever it is called, the +1, +2 before the prefix) shards that do the same? No, but if you're already at the top end of what your weapon can do, you can eat the suffix +ML with the lesser evil outsider bane and then change what you need and then put your suffix back. it's not perfect, but it's better than recrafting the entire thing.

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: overwrite instead of start from scratch - u9 craft Reply #12 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 9:20am	Print Post
	popejubal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 11:04pm: No, but if you're already at the top end of what your weapon can do, you can eat the suffix +ML with the lesser evil outsider bane and then change what you need and then put your suffix back. it's not perfect, but it's better than recrafting the entire thing. Yes, it's too bad you can't use the same technique with a Prefix or the Enhancement (+4 to +5) to-hit-and-damage portion on the item.

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