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More item dps?
Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:07am
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My main is a WF monk(light/windstance). I am currently in the TR process.  Working on his 3rd fighter life, already have 2 monk lifes and will take one paly/one more monk and 3 rogue lifes. 
My question is for the stance I'm in what gear offers more dps-the Epic Claw set or Epic Charged Gauntlets?

Current gear layout

Head-Epic Frost
Goggles-Tharnes
Necklace-Shintao
Cloak-Epic Envenomed
Belt-Epic Morronan(spelling?)
Ring-Shinitao
Ring-TOD(+7 dex)
Gloves-? [Claw? Charged Gauntlets?]
Bracers-?[Claw? Greensteel? Epic Demons Consort? Epic Jidz-Tet-ka?]
Boots-Epic Boots of Corrosion
Trinket-Bloodstone
DT(Working towards Red Scale)

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Reply #1 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:18am
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For most DPS, I'd go Epic Bracers of the Claw and Epic Gloves of the Claw. The set gives you +4 UNTYPED damage on EVERY hit. That's +84 damage over 20 attacks (-4 because one will probably miss over 20 attacks i.e. rolling a "1" on the d20. You'll get an additional +8 with unarmed crits on a 19-20.) and the Charged Gauntlets give you an average damage of 70 more Electric Damage on a Vorpal Strike (which happens on the average once every 20 attacks). Stuff immune to electricity (like the DQ) takes NO damage from Charged Gauntlets but the DQ and everything else will take the +4 damage from the Gloves/Bracers of the Claw set.

Not only will the DPS be higher with the Gloves/Bracers of the Claw, you'll also get 30% Healing Amp from it.


If you were to go Epic Charged Gauntlets, definitely go with Epic Demon's Consort for your bracers.


Edited:
Added extra +8 Crit damage with Claw Gloves and Bracers set. Thanks Phresh for pointing that out.
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Reply #2 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:21am
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Arkat wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:18am:
For most DPS, I'd go Epic Bracers of the Claw and Epic Gloves of the Claw. The set gives you +4 UNTYPED damage on EVERY hit. That's +76 damage over 20 attacks (one will probably miss over 20 attacks i.e. rolling a "1" on the d20) and the Charged Gauntlets give you an average damage of 70 more Electric Damage on a Vorpal Strike (which happens on the average once every 20 attacks). Stuff immune to electricity (like the DQ) takes NO damage from Charged Gauntlets but the DQ and everything else will take the +4 damage from the Gloves/Bracers of the Claw set.

Not only will the DPS be higher with the Gloves/Bracers of the Claw, you'll also get 30% Healing Amp from it.


It will be 84 with crits...

Edit: P, check the guild website I told you what shit you should be running on there.

Edit Number 2: Skip the Rogue PLs. Just do 1 so you can the Active PL. +1SA dmg for 1 life is pretty meh imo.
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Reply #3 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:47am
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Thank you both!!!!! Claw set it is! Whos up for more farming? Lol

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Reply #4 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 7:37pm
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Another possibility: if you have a pirate hat with seeker 6, you can swap out bloodstone for epic gem of many facets, which frees up your bracers slots for Jidz Tet'ka (which gets an increased die step in earth stance). 

Here's what I've been planning for a 12 monk/8 fighter dark monk/earth stance

Head: Pirate Hat - +6 Seeker, +15 Concentration
Neck: Oremi
Trinket: Epic Gem of Many Facets
Cloak: Min II +45 HP, +6 CON skills
Belt: Knost's
Ring 1: Encrusted
Ring 2: Oremi's
Gloves: Epic Claw
Boots: Madstone
Bracers: Epic Jidz-Tet'ka
Armor: DT – 10% Amp, 20% Amp, Destruction
Goggles: Epic Raven’s Sight/Tharnes
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 8:20pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 7:37pm:
Another possibility: if you have a pirate hat with seeker 6, you can swap out bloodstone for epic gem of many facets, which frees up your bracers slots for Jidz Tet'ka (which gets an increased die step in earth stance). 

Here's what I've been planning for a 12 monk/8 fighter dark monk/earth stance

Head: Pirate Hat - +6 Seeker, +15 Concentration
Neck: Oremi
Trinket: Epic Gem of Many Facets
Cloak: Min II +45 HP, +6 CON skills
Belt: Knost's
Ring 1: Encrusted
Ring 2: Oremi's
Gloves: Epic Claw
Boots: Madstone
Bracers: Epic Jidz-Tet'ka
Armor: DT – 10% Amp, 20% Amp, Destruction
Goggles: Epic Raven’s Sight/Tharnes



This is damn near identical to my monk and it works really nice.

Of note, I'm told that the destruction rune doesn't work with handwraps...have you tried it out?
  
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AtomicMew wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 7:37pm:
Another possibility: if you have a pirate hat with seeker 6, you can swap out bloodstone for epic gem of many facets, which frees up your bracers slots for Jidz Tet'ka (which gets an increased die step in earth stance). 


He uses Wind Stance, not Earth Stance.
  

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Reply #7 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:37pm
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Arkat wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 9:20pm:
He uses Wind Stance, not Earth Stance.

That's why it's for my monk, not his :p

Jidz Tet'ka is neat, regardless.  Even a wind monk might want to switch to fire now and then and 25% amp is nice. 
Tobril wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 8:20pm:
This is damn near identical to my monk and it works really nice.

Of note, I'm told that the destruction rune doesn't work with handwraps...have you tried it out?

Yeah it should look close to yours, since I got some ideas from your post :p

I don't know if destruction works or not though.
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 11:58pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 10:37pm:
Jidz Tet'ka is neat, regardless.  Even a wind monk might want to switch to fire now and then and 25% amp is nice. 
 


Epic Gloves of the Claw provide 30% Healing Amp.

The Claw set provides +4 untyped damage and 20% extra threat.

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Reply #9 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 1:35am
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Arkat wrote on Jul 11th, 2011 at 11:58pm:
Epic Gloves of the Claw provide 30% Healing Amp.

The Claw set provides +4 untyped damage and 20% extra threat.

Game, Set, and Match.  Tongue

The point being, you can use both Jidz Tet'ka and claw gloves and the claw set at the same time. 
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Reply #10 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:52am
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My monk setup is this flesh: (note, I have most of the gear, not all yet)

Helm-red dragon
cloak-epic envenomed cloak
boots-epic boots of corrosion/boots of anchoring
bracers-epic scorched bracers(green slot and +3 profane str)
goggles-epic ravens sight
gloves-epic claw gloves
trinket-epic gem of many facets
belt-encrusted
ring-encrusted
ring-shintao
neck-shintao

Armor-im going to get the red dragon, more because I want a set and everything else would be better off with something else-for a dex based monk (im assuming since wind stance) I would get the epic fom docent from von 6.  A custom DT docent as nice as well.

Obviously just use the augment slots for the few things you would be missing.
  

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Reply #11 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 7:03am
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AtomicMew wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 1:35am:
The point being, you can use both Jidz Tet'ka and claw gloves and the claw set at the same time. 


At the cost of losing your trinket slot. Ok. I suppose if you had a Pirate hat with +6 Seeker on it that could work.

Hmm...
  

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