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Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:02pm
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Fix scroll drops.

Stop using the luck counter (back from AC).

Hire new, competent devs.

Hire an actual QA team that actually plays this game.

...oh bugs? I thought you meant what bugs us....
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Re: Bugs that you care about
Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:18pm
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Hire new, competent devs.

Hire an actual QA team that actually plays this game.


This isn't helpful. If we are going to give them any feedback, why would they want to pay attention to us if we say stuff like this.

And what is a luck counter?
  

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Re: Bugs that you care about
Reply #2 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:30pm
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I don't blame the QA team at all.  It is obvious that they don't put nearly as much time and energy into regression testing as they need to, but that's upper management's fault for not allowing them the time to do their job the right way and for not giving them the resources the job deserves.
  

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Re: Bugs that you care about
Reply #3 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:44pm
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stainer wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:18pm:
This isn't helpful. If we are going to give them any feedback, why would they want to pay attention to us if we say stuff like this.

And what is a luck counter?



It's a fucking myth and Blank is an idiot.

http://asheron.wikia.com/wiki/Wi_Flag
  

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Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment.


Calvet wrote on Oct 20th, 2011 at 12:18pm:
I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #4 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:50pm
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Eladiun wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:44pm:
It's a fucking myth and Blank is an idiot.

http://asheron.wikia.com/wiki/Wi_Flag


If you say so.

I still say there's a Wi-Flag...but believe what you want. Maybe I'm just paranoid about hardly ever pulling anything decent.

Seriously.
  
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Re: Bugs that you care about
Reply #5 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:52pm
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If you say so.

I still say there's a Wi-Flag...but believe what you want. Maybe I'm just paranoid about hardly ever pulling anything decent.

Seriously.



Oh, we 1896 pieces of evidence that you are an idiot.
  

Nevynn wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 11:38pm:
Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment.


Calvet wrote on Oct 20th, 2011 at 12:18pm:
I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Re: Bugs that you care about
Reply #6 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:53pm
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If you say so.

I still say there's a Wi-Flag...but believe what you want. Maybe I'm just paranoid about hardly ever pulling anything decent.

Seriously.


We are trying to provide them with what we know about the game issues in a concise, respectful manner. If you expect them to participate in an environment where people are calling for them to be fired, you may be somewhat deluded.

I am not saying you can't say these things, but sometimes you hold back a hammer until you really need it.
  

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Reply #7 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:57pm
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Eladiun wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:52pm:
Oh, we 1896 pieces of evidence that you are an idiot.


I'm entitled to my opinion. No need to flame about it.

stainer wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:53pm:
We are trying to provide them with what we know about the game issues in a concise, respectful manner. If you expect them to participate in an environment where people are calling for them to be fired, you may be somewhat deluded.

I am not saying you can't say these things, but sometimes you hold back a hammer until you really need it. 


Fair enough. I'm just starting to get fed up with Turbine. All the bugs I want fixed have already been mentioned.
  
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Re: Bugs that you care about
Reply #8 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:00pm
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I'm just starting to get fed up with Turbine. All the bugs I want fixed have already been mentioned.


What you are doing is similar to yelling at your trash man because he picks up on Tuesday instead of Thursday. He has no control over that, but that doesn't make him a terrible garbage man.
  

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Reply #9 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:05pm
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stainer wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:00pm:
What you are doing is similar to yelling at your trash man because he picks up on Tuesday instead of Thursday. He has no control over that, but that doesn't make him a terrible garbage man.


If he splits the bags when he picks them up and refuses to clean it up, then yes he is.
  
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Re: Bugs that you care about
Reply #10 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:20pm
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If he splits the bags when he picks them up and refuses to clean it up, then yes he is.


I'm not aware of QA actually breaking DDO.

Link?
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Reply #11 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:27pm
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Arkat wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:20pm:
I'm not aware of QA actually breaking DDO.

Link?


Breaking, no.

Creating messes that we later deal with, yes.
  
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Re: Bugs that you care about
Reply #12 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:29pm
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I'd very much like to keep this thread as a useful resource to us and to Turbine employees who might be viewing the Vault.

I do think that "whose fault are the bugs and problems in DDO" is a reasonable debate, but I would prefer that it have its own thread.

Blank and everyone else, would you mind if we split those posts out to create a new thread for that debate?
  

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Reply #13 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:30pm
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popejubal wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 6:29pm:
I'd very much like to keep this thread as a useful resource to us and to Turbine employees who might be viewing the Vault.

I do think that "whose fault are the bugs and problems in DDO" is a reasonable debate, but I would prefer that it have its own thread.

Blank and everyone else, would you mind if we split those posts out to create a new thread for that debate?


Nah, I'm good now. Just frustrated.

Like I said, the bugs I want fixed are already listed.
  
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Reply #14 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 7:03pm
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Excellent.
  
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Re: Other discussions about bugs
Reply #15 - Jul 13th, 2011 at 11:21am
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Fix scroll drops.

Stop using the luck counter (back from AC).

Hire new, competent devs.

Hire an actual QA team that actually plays this game.

...oh bugs? I thought you meant what bugs us....


Not really much to discuss here.
  

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