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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Turbine discussion Jul 26^th, 2011 at 3:55pm	Print Post
	Mockduck - 5 day ban Using the Vault to mod posts. You were warned.
	« Last Edit: Jul 27^th, 2011 at 12:40pm by stainer »
	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #1 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 3:55pm: Mockdock - 5 day ban Using the Vault to mod posts. You were warned. Every web browser sends the referrer in the http request. If I were a Turbine moderator, I would have a page set up to display the past 100 referrals they received from the Vault, the AoK website (assuming they have one), etc. It would be the quickest and easiest way to locate impending drama. No need to visit the vault. Could probably get around it with bit.ly and similar services, not sure though.

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #2 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:01pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 3:55pm: Mockduck - 5 day ban Using the Vault to mod posts. You were warned. el oh el


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #3 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:01pm	Print Post
	Kimberlite wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 3:59pm: If I were a Turbine moderator, I would have a page set up to display the past 100 referrals they received from the Vault, the AoK website (assuming they have one), etc. It would be the quickest and easiest way to locate impending drama. No need to visit the vault. Could probably get around it with bit.ly and similar services, not sure though. I agree, but that isn't the case here. He loaded this thread up and two mins later (quicker actually) the thread is gone.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #4 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 3:55pm: Mockduck - 5 day ban Using the Vault to mod posts. You were warned. Please explain this stainer.

	Stand on hills of long-forgotten yesterdays... Looking for a sign that the Universal Mind has written you into the Passion Play.
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #5 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:45pm	Print Post
	Crap, I can't modify that post. I wanted to delete it because I understand what you mean.

	Stand on hills of long-forgotten yesterdays... Looking for a sign that the Universal Mind has written you into the Passion Play.
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #6 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:45pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:44pm: Please explain this stainer. He used your link to delete it. You think I was to harsh? Should I make it a day?

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #7 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	Any of you official Turbine, or affiliated folks, that are reading this thread and want to discuss this, feel free to PM me.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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flynnjsw Shroud Slacker Offline F U All!!!!!! Posts: 1216 Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #8 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:45pm: He used your link to delete it. You think I was to harsh? Should I make it a day? Make it perma


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #9 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:53pm	Print Post
	flynnjsw wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:52pm: Make it perma It is only symbolic. We have a bunch of them on the Vault.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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JDollar Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Swarthy as fuck Posts: 5380 Location: Uttering "death threats"! Joined: Jun 24^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #10 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:57pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:53pm: It is only symbolic. We have a bunch of them on the Vault. A symbolic 5 day is fitting, maybe go back and ban him for other offenses commited in the past... like they do to us! Unless they want to contribute to the community!
	« Last Edit: Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:58pm by JDollar »
	Quote: J$ can take great pride that I think he's too revolting for words and will probably post "gtg cat on fire" if he joins a group I'm in. Quote: JD is easily the most genuinely mean person I've known Quote: SNAP!� Point for the Canadian! notajedi wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm: JonnyD has had way better exploits.
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flynnjsw Shroud Slacker Offline F U All!!!!!! Posts: 1216 Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #11 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:57pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:53pm: It is only symbolic. We have a bunch of them on the Vault. I know, but big symbols are fun.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #12 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:00pm	Print Post
	I would prefer that Mockduck not be banned.

	Stand on hills of long-forgotten yesterdays... Looking for a sign that the Universal Mind has written you into the Passion Play.
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #13 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:00pm: I would prefer that Mockduck not be banned. I can understand that. I would have preferred not to ban him. I am going to leave it for now, just so some of us can have a conversation about this.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Nevynn Horoluth Raider Offline Badgertastic!! Posts: 2752 Location: San Antonio, TX Joined: Feb 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #14 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 4:45pm: He used your link to delete it. You think I was to harsh? Should I make it a day? I think three days would be sufficient; long enough to show you mean business, yet not overly harsh. Edited: Based on new information, I revise my statement above. Make it permanent.
	« Last Edit: Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:29pm by Nevynn »

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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #15 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:33pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:00pm: I would prefer that Mockduck not be banned. I've never seen him as Jerry or Mockduck, only as Cordovan, so I have zero emotional attachment to the guy. How would you want anyone else treated in the same situation? It comes down to what they're bringing to the Vault, which is nothing. All I've seen from Turbine staff in the past few months is abuse of their access to the Vault, taking what they read here and using it to bring the jackboots down faster and harder on the other forums. Now if you're okay with allowing that kind of abuse, fine. What will be next? Have they started targeting individuals yet for what they post here? Come to the Vault, post on a thread about an exploit, get your account banned because people like Mockduck or 404error read about it here? I already post more here than the other forums because I grew tired of having to be obsessively careful to avoid incurring infractions. Do you want that over here too? Ban them all. Turbine, Tbine, all of Boston. Whatever.

	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #16 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	I have specific reason why I asked that Mockduck not be banned. I will not go into it further publicly. Please also keep in mind it was MY thread he deleted.
	« Last Edit: Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:44pm by Arkat »
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Kimberlite Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1074 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #17 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:47pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:43pm: I have specific reason why I asked that Mockduck not be banned. I will not go into it further publicly. Please also keep in mind it was MY thread he deleted. Please keep in mind that everyone here is at risk from allowing access to people like him. I don't want the money I put into the game placed at risk because of what I write on a non-Turbine site kthxbye.
	« Last Edit: Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:47pm by Kimberlite »
	Memnir wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:59am: Note to any Turbine staffers reading this, and one I genuinely hope you share around the office: DDO has become a shit game because y'all have made it a shit game. Once it was great. Now, it's a festering puddle of monkey diarrhea. No matter how you try to justify it, or pat yourselves on the back for doing great jobs... it's a shit game now because of you. Y'all keep on giving the players the middle finger, and you keep expecting us to reward you for the abuse. I've had it with you narcissistic fuckwads and your myopic policies of ineptitude.
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #18 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:43pm: I have specific reason why I asked that Mockduck not be banned. I will not go into it further publicly. Booooooo


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #19 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:43pm: Please also keep in mind it was MY thread he deleted. I hear you, but it is everyone that is at risk. Lets get input from Strakeln. At three other Turbine accounts have been on, and since they are in cubicles, I am sure Jerry has been reading this,

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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JDollar Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Swarthy as fuck Posts: 5380 Location: Uttering "death threats"! Joined: Jun 24^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #20 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	Kimberlite wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:33pm: I've never seen him as Jerry or Mockduck, only as Cordovan, so I have zero emotional attachment to the guy. How would you want anyone else treated in the same situation? It comes down to what they're bringing to the Vault, which is nothing. All I've seen from Turbine staff in the past few months is abuse of their access to the Vault, taking what they read here and using it to bring the jackboots down faster and harder on the other forums. Now if you're okay with allowing that kind of abuse, fine. What will be next? Have they started targeting individuals yet for what they post here? Come to the Vault, post on a thread about an exploit, get your account banned because people like Mockduck or 404error read about it here? I already post more here than the other forums because I grew tired of having to be obsessively careful to avoid incurring infractions. Do you want that over here too? Ban them all. Turbine, Tbine, all of Boston. Whatever. this

	Quote: J$ can take great pride that I think he's too revolting for words and will probably post "gtg cat on fire" if he joins a group I'm in. Quote: JD is easily the most genuinely mean person I've known Quote: SNAP!� Point for the Canadian! notajedi wrote on Mar 14^th, 2013 at 6:47pm: JonnyD has had way better exploits.
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Axeman Waterworks Kobold Offline ESAD Posts: 140 Location: Misery Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #21 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	Just my opinion, and we all know what opinions are like. But. Do you really want moderators from another site moderating your site? It really is none of their business what is said here. Lord knows they have enough to keep up with over there. Some may argue that they are not moderating this site, but if the facts are genuine then they are in fact moderating this site by proxy so to speak. In other words if people on that other site are being moderated for what is said/done/insinuated here then they are the ones in the wrong not us. Theirs is a privately owned forum and there fore subject to their rules. Is this not a privately owned forum? And as such NOT subject to their rules? Make your own decisions, and your own peace. Just know that to me, atleast, it stinks. Axman


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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #22 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Kimberlite wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:33pm: It comes down to what they're bringing to the Vault, which is nothing. All I've seen from Turbine staff in the past few months is abuse of their access to the Vault, taking what they read here and using it to bring the jackboots down faster and harder on the other forums. A very strong point. We came here to get away from their excessive moderation, now they're spending a lot of time trying to bring their behavior here. Kimberlite wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:33pm: Now if you're okay with allowing that kind of abuse, fine. What will be next? Have they started targeting individuals yet for what they post here? Come to the Vault, post on a thread about an exploit, get your account banned because people like Mockduck or 404error read about it here? One of my sources suggested that they (specifically, MadFloyd and Slain) are preparing for battle. Meaning, they may try to get people banned based on what they see here. I highly doubt they'd be able to get a sign-off on such action, and if they did, I'm pretty sure the reaction from their customers would be VERY FUCKING LOUD and hard to ignore (think: offerwall, endless banning event). And before we go too far down this path, see my response to the next bit: Kimberlite wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 5:33pm: I already post more here than the other forums because I grew tired of having to be obsessively careful to avoid incurring infractions. Do you want that over here too? Well, to be fair, unless you link your Vault and DDO accounts somehow, I think they'd have trouble giving you shit based on actions here. For example, how do they know that the Strakeln here is the Strakeln there? Do they know for sure? Do they have ANY way of proving it? Answers: 1) They don't 2) No 3) No Additionally, anyone here can change their name at any time. Or create a new account with a different name. Frankly, I'm surprised there isn't a Cordovan here...

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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #23 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 8:31pm	Print Post
	Axeman wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 8:18pm: In other words if people on that other site are being moderated for what is said/done/insinuated here then they are the ones in the wrong not us. There's only one example of this, and that was when someone got kicked from ML for posting NDA-breaking info here on a board that is open to any member. That aside, I've not heard a single complaint referring to someone getting moderated or otherwise punished for what they said/did/insinuated here.

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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Heard a rumor Reply #24 - Jul 26^th, 2011 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	Strakeln wrote on Jul 26^th, 2011 at 8:29pm: Well, to be fair, unless you link your Vault and DDO accounts somehow, I think they'd have trouble giving you shit based on actions here.� For example, how do they know that the Strakeln here is the Strakeln there?� Do they know for sure?� Do they have ANY way of proving it? That's a good point. I imagine that the PopeJubal guy on the DDO forums is pretty pissed at me for the shit I've posted here by now.

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