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Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:27pm
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I've been seeing a lot of shroud runs that say "DDoor at end" ...
I've been in there a grand total on one time on my pali, which wasn't a successful run;
and I'm just trying to learn and absorb more about this; so ... what is the benefit of DDooring at the end? Is it to get to the different altars? is it for something that's not quite kosher?
  
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Re: Newbly Question
Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:28pm
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Allegedly you can farm larges faster. Assuming you get one that is useful from the pt4 chest. 50/50 shot at getting one, and then smaller chance its something useful like a scale or stone.

I'd rather complete and hit my 20ths quicker.
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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:29pm
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So you can farm out the chests up to part 4 without being on timer.

once you have multiple toons shroud ready it doesn't really make sense to do it, unless you just really want to run it over and over and over again.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:39pm
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Invelios wrote on Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:29pm:
So you can farm out the chests up to part 4 without being on timer.

once you have multiple toons shroud ready it doesn't really make sense to do it, unless you just really want to run it over and over and over again.



If you don't have many toons to run shroud best way is to run without completion five or six times, then complete twice. you'll never ransack a chest that way.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:41pm
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/death is faster and more reliable.
  


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Re: Newbly Question
Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:52pm
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I've been seeing a lot of shroud runs that say "DDoor at end" ...
I've been in there a grand total on one time on my pali, which wasn't a successful run;
and I'm just trying to learn and absorb more about this; so ... what is the benefit of DDooring at the end? Is it to get to the different altars? is it for something that's not quite kosher?


The DDoor is there for people too stupid to hit "recall" when they want to get out.

Some people like to recall early so that they can farm parts 1-4 without getting a completion.  Some subset of those people demand a DDoor because they enjoy being griefed by AoK.

Edit:  the most amusing part is when AoK gets blamed for an immediate altar hit when there aren't even any AoK members in the raid.  Because apparently, some of them leave the guild and join other guilds in disguise so that they can hit the altar incognito or something.
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Re: Newbly Question
Reply #6 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:59pm
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popejubal wrote on Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:52pm:
Edit:  the most amusing part is when AoK gets blamed for an immediate altar hit when there aren't even any AoK members in the raid.  Because apparently, some of them leave the guild and join other guilds in disguise so that they can hit the altar incognito or something.


That's not why, but please do tell people that. It's very entertaining.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 7:30pm
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Just need to check this: /death can get interrupted if you're hit by something? Like blades or fireballs?

On new toons if people don't have the shards they need people will do this also. They have all the larges etc to T3 so that is not an issue. Couple of runs and you've got your concord op and lit2 or what have you.

ddoor to walk calmly out the front step seems so civilized. Or word  of recall scrolls on a divine.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 10:41pm
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Ah, thank you all for your answers. I suppose this is good to know Smiley
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 10:43pm
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faster to farm larges doing new invasion runs theres exactly 50 million chests that can all drop larges
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 11:32pm
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Combat Wombat wrote on Aug 10th, 2011 at 10:43pm:
faster to farm larges doing new invasion runs theres exactly 50 million chests that can all drop larges


Not supremes though. And that's what you often need 2 of per item.

Ivywine the other thing is that ddoor takes you to the front step. The portals that appear around the edges of part 5 after completion take you back to the other parts of the shroud so you can use the crafting alters; tier 1 part 1, tier 2 part3
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 11:39pm
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Not supremes though. And that's what you often need 2 of per item.

Ivywine the other thing is that ddoor takes you to the front step. The portals that appear around the edges of part 5 after completion take you back to the other parts of the shroud so you can use the crafting alters; tier 1 part 1, tier 2 part3


And that front step is not a place where you want to be.

You can't get back into the "main" part of the Shroud once you're in that front entrance*, so if someone hits the altar and completes after you've taken the DDoor and before you've exited the quest, you're extra screwed.  You get the completion that you didn't want AND you don't get the two end chests.

Friends don't let friends DDoor.


*if you /stuck at the front entrance, it can take you back to your location from before you took the DDoor.
  

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Reply #12 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 11:39pm
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Not supremes though. And that's what you often need 2 of per item.

Ivywine the other thing is that ddoor takes you to the front step. The portals that appear around the edges of part 5 after completion take you back to the other parts of the shroud so you can use the crafting alters; tier 1 part 1, tier 2 part3


if shards are your limiting factor you are doing something wrong Cheesy
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 10th, 2011 at 11:56pm
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popejubal wrote on Aug 10th, 2011 at 11:39pm:
And that front step is not a place where you want to be.

You can't get back into the "main" part of the Shroud once you're in that front entrance*, so if someone hits the altar and completes after you've taken the DDoor and before you've exited the quest, you're extra screwed.  You get the completion that you didn't want AND you don't get the two end chests.

Friends don't let friends DDoor.


*if you /stuck at the front entrance, it can take you back to your location from before you took the DDoor.


I pretty much said exactly that didn't I? And surely anyone who has had the least experience of questing should know that ddoor takes you back to the front part of the quest *inside* the quest. And then it becomes their own lookout to do the 2 clicks it takes to turn around and hit the gate to exit the raid.


Combat Wombat wrote on Aug 10th, 2011 at 11:39pm:
if shards are your limiting factor you are doing something wrong Cheesy



How so? I roll up a new toon. I get it to 13. I dualbox flag it. We run a guild shroud. I only get 3 of the 4 supremes I wanted to craft the two items I need (2x khops or whatever). We run it again. I sit quietly crafting. Done.

Sorry I don't follow you.



Frankly people get their knickers so twisted about ddoor and I don't get why. Maybe they've had a bad experience where someone being 'helpful' casts a ddoor right on top of the last boss or something.


My original question still stands and unfortunately I am not currently in game to test this: can /death be interrupted? I rarely do this action but I remember being annoyingly interrupted in times past.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 11th, 2011 at 12:01am
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How so? I roll up a new toon. I get it to 13. I dualbox flag it. We run a guild shroud. I only get 3 of the 4 supremes I wanted to craft the two items I need (2x khops or whatever). We run it again. I sit quietly crafting. Done.

Sorry I don't follow you.



we are talking about things from the OPs perspective i dont care about you and as a new player starting our shards will never be his limiting factor
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 11th, 2011 at 12:02am
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Previously, no.  Now, you can interrupt it, at least according to recent release notes (I haven't logged in to test it). 

No idea whether taking damage can interrupt it.  Seems counter-productive, really  Grin
  

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Reply #16 - Aug 11th, 2011 at 12:07am
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I pretty much said exactly that didn't I? And surely anyone who has had the least experience of questing should know that ddoor takes you back to the front part of the quest *inside* the quest. And then it becomes their own lookout to do the 2 clicks it takes to turn around and hit the gate to exit the raid.


You did say that, but I wanted to make sure that the implications were clear - that you can get screwed by the DDoor and also mention that there is a workaround.  There are a lot of people who insist that you have to throw DDoors in the Shroud and I have to fight the urge to click the altar every time I see one go up.
  

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Reply #17 - Aug 11th, 2011 at 12:16am
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Combat Wombat wrote on Aug 11th, 2011 at 12:01am:
we are talking about things from the OPs perspective i dont care about you and as a new player starting our shards will never be his limiting factor


True. But the original question was why *anyone* would do it.

Also if you get lucky and have a friendly long timer they will most likely be happy to shout you T1 and T2 ings. So if you've got your blanks you may still choose to not complete and get shards for those. So same deal really new or old player.

Different people are going to come at that raid for different reasons new or old - it is nice if the leader has the flexibility to take this into account.

These days crafting is a big factor. If you're newer, 8x 25 runs for crunchables and ing is not bad if you only have one Shroud runner.
  
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Re: Newbly Question
Reply #18 - Aug 11th, 2011 at 5:32am
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Glenalth wrote on Aug 10th, 2011 at 5:59pm:
That's not why, but please do tell people that. It's very entertaining.


That is what I tell people when I do it in pug shrouds.

"Hey, where is the AoK guy? Which one of you are new to your guild?"
  

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Reply #19 - Aug 11th, 2011 at 5:41am
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Perfect.
  
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