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Curious...do you use AC tanks on at least Horoth on Hard/Elite?

We did an Elite last night, 2 cleric 1 fvs 2 wizard 2 ac tanks 1 bard (twf variety) and DPS. Hamstring+ac makes for pretty easy healing on Horoth. This was probably the best group I have had for an Elite ToD though.

Rather unlucky on pt1 as the judge did his wing buffet almost straight away and killed me and the jailor kiter. Few more deaths and we just decided to redo it.

2nd run was very smooth and used the South Door/Room. You can fight on the platform until the door opens.

I had the fvs kite the jailor. I much prefer kiting to tanking.

DPS on pt2 was pretty good, so pt3 went very smooth. No pots for the whole run, which is my aim. 35 mins. About 4 rings dropped.

As Eladiun said, Elite ToD is a very good way to build teamwork/skill with people that run together a lot. It is also damn fun.

I plan to do this even after the spastic Elite changes, IMO we can do it with maybe 10-20 pots at the most first day. Will be a fun challenge for sure.

Oh solid fog helps with ac too as a debuff to Horoth.

Felgor wrote on Aug 24^th, 2011 at 8:39pm:



Really only used AC Tank on Leet to Tank Horoth and only cause we had one in party at the time.  Normally, high Amp/HP will do just fine.

Hard is the new normal.

Think he was 80+AC.

Inkblack wrote on Aug 26^th, 2011 at 11:19am:


Tendon slice weapons don't work unless this change was accidentally reverted. The hamstring feat, which requires at least one rogue level, can still slow them down.

Inkblack wrote on Aug 26^th, 2011 at 11:54am:


Anyone who has a Rogue splash on a Fighter type can probably afford it.  As long as Hamstring still works on Pit Fiends, I'd say it's worth taking instead of that 37th Toughness feat.

Sham wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 11:57pm:


Come on look at your initial response to me...

Sham wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 5:26am:


We have some history, dear, so excuse me as if I read that as a shot across my bow.   You saw an opportunity to take a shot at me and you fucked it up.  If you're gonna throw an arrogant , ill-informed, disdainful shot at me you obviously are going to get one back, creampuff.  What you expected me to just turn the other cheek? 

Obviously, you need to eat some concrete or shut the fuck up.  If you are going to call yourself Elite maybe you should actually know the game mechanics before telling me what classes I obviously don't play.  To me it seems a waste to TR Greedz if you have no clue how to play him maybe you should stick to barbs that seems to work for Axer.

FYI, I replied immediately before I finished reading the thread any regurgitation was unintentional. 

Plzzzz...

Your melees don't hold a candle to anybody's let alone Axer's. Although I don't particularly care for him, even if you compare me to him, you wouldn't be half the player he is. Looking at dresdyn, funny you would laugh at my wizzy as I would shit over yours all day long.


Shoot me, I haven't done TOD for a while since I don't need to. From a caster perspective  that is still sound advice. I'm not mistaken. The orthons in part 3 have the mark of shavarath and since that is intended, I'm assuming it is a bug since the epic change.

I mean it would just be soooo horrible if instead of clearing trash in part 3, I would be mistaken and fts them. I can argue that it's better since the orthons don't respawn unless dead and you wouldn't have to keep clearing.

We have no history in my mind. I say some in your guild are shitty and some are enjoyable to group with. I retain that stance. There is no history between the two of us specifically as we've never grouped together.  Please continue, Papa Bear.

How many helpers' does it take to do heyton's rest?
You know what helper's can help everyone by doing?

Hardy har har... yuk.

Inkblack wrote on Aug 26^th, 2011 at 11:19am:


How did the run go?

We did one last night and it wasn't too great but got it done.

Very fun, but beginning to wonder why when only 2 sanura's rings and another crappy ring drop, given the extra time it takes to form.

Practice teamwork for the new raids I guess.

Felgor wrote on Aug 28^th, 2011 at 8:20pm:


I bags the judge next time part 1. By myself.

Inkblack wrote on Aug 28^th, 2011 at 11:13pm:


Hmm "count"? I guess you at least get everyone on their best toons?
I throw out "Elite ToD in an hour" in our channel and pray that we get some dps lol.
Last night was lacking yada yada took some pots yada yada.

Goodluck let us know how it goes. I like hearing how others do Elite ToD and any cool stories from the run.

JC wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 10:49am:


Good advice around here only because of the vultures. In which case JC, why are you suggesting removing the vulture bait? Kinda counter culture really.

Hey Fel, if my 10 con clonk can solo heal eChrono then can I kite part 1 on her?

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All depends on the party. I know you will heal well and throw mass protection from energy without me asking. If there is an extra healer then sure. Or even if the other healer is good, they can heal on the judge and you kite until the elementals are dead. Then let an arcane take over kiting and go help on the Judge.

Either way, I really really hate DoTs on Horned Devil's in raids. Just messes up agro so much.

Dzabe wrote on Aug 30^th, 2011 at 3:06am:



It all comes down to DPS and healers who don't shit themselves and can conserve resources.  If you see people swinging LitIIs on Horuth in an Elite ToD grab your ankles.