Tell you what, they can take my FvS's "Leap of Faith" when they screw the monks over as well; and permanently reverse their decision to add "Fly" as a casters spell in a future update.

Otherwise, Turbine Devs are just being hypocritical fuckwads as per usual; taking special skills/abilities from one class; and then give something better to their pet class yet again.

So its gamebreaking for a FvS to be able to leap a wopping 20 feet away from a source of aggro, but giving casters the ability to hover over a fight out of melee range, raining down spells won't be?

Give me a break Turbine.

*EDITE*

Seriously; one person crys about certain classes potential kiting ability, and Turbines on it like flys on fresh shit? They dont reply to 99% of players suggestions but as soon as a "Nerf them; they can do something I cannot" pops up, they are all over it.

God forbid they actually design content intellegently, or allow for multiple ways of doign something. Instead, just keep hammering away with the nerf-bat until players have no other options left and are forced to do things how you wanted them to do it in the first place. Wonderful fucking plan Turbine, that always makes the players happy.

Know what? I dont think WF having natural disease, poison immunity and FoM are fair.

My trees can get diseased; My trees can also get poisoned and die. What the hell makes a WF so special then? After all they are not "Robots" which would of couse be naturally immune to poinsion and disease, but living wood constructs; am I not right?

Perhaps the next "Read by a Dev" nerf should be this then. it should be an unpopular enough idea to piss most of the players off; it seems to be what Turbine trys hard to achieve most of the time now anyways.

The wonderful thing about bitch-nerfs, it that they never, never will end. Someone will always be able to do something someone else cannnot and the "Nerf them! Its unfair!" cry rises again.

Turbine needs to get their heads out of their asses on this one. Leave "kiting" ability the fuck alone. Its been in game and used in quests/raids/ect. forever; why now is it suddenly game-breakingly broken that it needs immedieate attention?

Well, to be fair, they're still very far from putting Fly into the game at all.  The game just isn't made to be three dimensional as of yet.

I'd also be utterly shocked if Abundant Step and Wind Dance managed to come away from this unscathed, tbh, unless I don't understand some sort of huge difference between them and Leap of Faith.

Well fuck.

Typical Turbine in 5 easy steps

1) design something flashy that looks good on preview videos and splash screens without any account for metagame, future plans, etc
2) hand it over to the "test servers", where nothing really happens (I guess they've officially acknowledged their test servers are useless by giving the XP bonus on Lama together with the unavailability of LR/vet status into an artificer, so we can actually test, not preview, TEST the class for them )
3) release it live, people that actually play the game meta the shit out of it
4) they sell shitloads of monks/fvs in the store
5) NERF TIME

I doubt Abundant Step will be nerfed.

Lormyr said:
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I really wish shade would just shut the fuck up from time to time.

As much as I am sad to see it go, it's a much deserved nerf.  Wings are so overpowered compared to clerics.

Eladiun wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2011 at 10:46pm:


Either a longer cooldown or switching it over to an action boost based mechanic.

rev Jim wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 12:20am:


It hurts less each time it happens I am told

I do also have to agree with Shade having himself a healthy dose of "Shut the fuck up".

So he drags a raid party full of DoT/divine casters into the new raid, dominates it (just like every other raid/party ran by all DoT/divine parties from epic on down) and then promptly declares its broken and insists on kiting nerfs for FvS.

And you know once the nerf-bats out; every potential kiters going to get a few licks from it; because thats just how Turbine rolls. Fixng shit? not so great with that, but nerfing? they got that skill down pat.

The problem isnt kiting; its that a full caster/divine party can effortlessly boot-fuck any content, any difficulty in game currently.

Up to and including their new content; which is really what Turbines got its panties in a bunch over I imagine.

Delveloping what is supposed to be the hardest raid ever designed for DDO so far, and their most challenging content, then finding that a full DoT/Divine raid party just bent over their supposed Elite Lord of Blades and made him their little Nancy-boy-bitch has to hurt their egos considerably.

Shade runs content with the most powerful classes in game, them pisses and moans that it was to easy for him.

Want more of a challenge Shade? Don't run with full DoT casting parties then; its just that easy. But no.. Lets fuck everyone over because Shade just HAS to hit the biggest easy button currently available to him in DDO, then has the balls to bitch online that it's TOO easy for his liking.

I have one precious gem of a saying/insult I got from a Malay friend of mine quite a few years ago that I still drag out for special occasions. It is actually the politest, and the most funniest way I have ever heard of for telling somone to please fuck off and die.

"Shade; Please go die far far, la."

*EDITE*

I did just notice Torc's little typo there as well in his "goodie! I get to nerf something not broken!" post of joy.

*putting on my official party popping hat*

I just had the most wonderful mental image of him sitting down getting ready to get his nerf-groove on; pulling on his hat and having his head promply pop like a balloon pricked with a pin.

It was quite therapeutic

Memnir wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 3:01am:



Depends what the final change is I suppose.  Extra sp, longer cooldown is a lazy fix.  If they could implement a more level playing field fix where chains and red alert affect Fvs, monks etc the same as everyone else, it's possible more people would be able to take that on the chin and just adapt.

Let's just hope it's just a timer change, for the sake of folks used to it by now (I don't have any toons with it...yet).  All-in-all, it is a bit OP in terms of kiting and DPSing at the same time and I'm sure it wasn't just Shade that caused them to revisit it.

Shade's big fat mouth certainly created a nice spotlight onto it, but I'd be surprised if nobody else had been trying to bend Turbine's ear about it.  He just whined because the FvS was busy doing two jobs and neither of them was healing his sorry ass.

I'd be ok with a timer, or a boost mechanic, but I'm not too happy about the nerfbat this time as it was a welcome respite to have the FvS able to take over as backup kiter in ToD or when the fit hits the shan in other raids allowing the rest of the party to regroup and rebuff.

C'est la vie...

tico wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 8:11am:


Gonna laugh for days if they finally get around to tacking on str for touch spells, and dex for rays (dots seeming at least to act like rays atm) vs AC, after all these years of "max caster stat rest con".

Minmaxer tears taste delicious.