Superior [whatever] clickies now give only 50% instead of 75% boost to whatever they modify.  My Superior Brilliance V stick and my Amrath belts are all goigng straight into the bank to rot for now.

Are they actually changed or did they just lose the description fix in the patch?  Changing these clickies makes those associated clickies pretty much useless.

popejubal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 2:03pm:




That was almost the only reason to use clickies over a permanent buff.  That's a big, unannounced nerf.  It also cements the new alchemical crafting as the only real way to beef up your caster.  Are we sure it's not WAI?

I just tested this on my WF FvS...264 Heal with no Potency or Ardor, 358 with Superior Potency VI, 405 with Superior Ardor VIII.  Didn't run the numbers but it appears to be unchanged, even if the text is wrong (it does say 50%).

EDIT: Tested again, naked and with all metas off.  147/199/225.  Tested again with my standard buffs and equipment and got the same self-Heal I always get, so I'm certain that Ardor is having the same effect it was having yesterday.

Cor wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 2:42pm:


As I just edited in above, I tested with my normal equipment and buffs and got the same number I always get, so it's the same.  I tried to actually calculate it out but don't really know what the math is for this.  But yeah, Healer's Friend II and Life Magic IV is what I have.

There's the problem, silly me accidentally used Scroll Heal base numbers rather than spell Heal numbers.

Folllowup testing to my initial note in the Un-Advertised Changes in U11 thread.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=340643

It looks like the description on Superior Ardor (which now says 50%) is correct, but there is a difference between the numbers I'm getting from Superior Ardor and Superior Potency.

Heal on a guild member with 10% healing amp (from shrine) and I have 40% bonus from enhancements.

150 point Heal * 1.4 * 1.1 = 231 HP
With no potency/etc. gear on, I Heal him for 231 HP.

I borrow an Epic Ornamental Dagger from my Wizard for Superior Potency VI and now me Heals hit him for 313 HP.
That's just 35% more than 231, NOT 50% mor than 231.

When I use my Amrath belt for Superior Ardor VIII, I end up with a 354 point Heal. That's 53% more than 231, so it does look like 50% with some odd rounding.


My conclusion:
Superior Ardor increases healing power by 50% (which matches the new description).
Superior Potency increases spell power in general by 35% (which does NOT match the description which still claims a 50% boost in U11).

If anyone can point out where my numbers are wrong, I'd love to have someone let me know.

Edit2: Justagame pointed out where my math was wrong.  It just happened to be a coincidence that the way I was calculating the numbers happened to be VERY close to 50% for the Superior Ardor even though the actual Turbine calculation really is 75.

Nothing to see here.  Move along you looky-loos.

popejubal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 3:34pm:

don't worry, Math & I don't get along real well, and I hear that is quite common (math must be a total douche)