Terebinthia wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 8:21am:



The HP bar display is freaking me out.  It's like a new hobby.  I cannot fathom how some people get so low.   A 6 Fighter/2 Rogue/12 Wizard with 122HP.  WTF.  So many people from the Snooch school of builds.   

The brightside is when they die I can just say "300 HP and standing under Harry is called suicide and I'm a cleric not a miracle worker."  It also makes my decision on not to rez them easy.

Eladiun wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 8:33am:


I resemble that build. Granted I have ALOT more hp though.
Funny thing is that I got refused from a VoD (even after the mandatory tell), but got into a Abbot. Should have been a smooth run, but Hordo decided to forget how to run over water 

Honestly, every PuG brings 3 healers and a bard unless they like wasting 30-45 minutes of their life.  Only channel/guild runs work with less.  And channel/guild runs are guaranteed to have toons decently geared and not sucking.

Given that, there should be at least 7000-9000 spell points to heal with for the raid.  Not counting the bard and mysterious baubles. (Insert random "My Nuts" joke here).  More than enough for the raid. 

BTW...If I have to down 1 pot on my healer in an eVon6 every once in a while, who gives a fuck?  You pull flawless reds every 8-10 runs, at WORST.  A pot costs 10k-15kpp.  a flawless red is worth 600kpp.  You do the math, einstein.  I think you are still coming out on top.  And that doesn't count the shards, seals, and base items you can get.

The only real issue is that it takes an extra 5-10 minutes of my life I won't get back.  Same with eDQ.  I'd used to get 4-5 epics done in 2 hours, no problem.  Now you are lucky to get in 3.  With no upgrade in the loot tables.  It's got nothing to do with store pots.  It's got everything to do with stretching out the grind.  Keeping you busy running on your hamster wheel longer.

BTW.  Ran E-Von last night and I barely saw a difference.  yeah she has more HP so now the second healer actually has to take over and yeah you need to pay a little more attention but it's much ado about nothing.

Asheras wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 12:13pm:


I see your point but I slightly disagree.  A properly geared pug or channel should be fine.  We have some good players and some geared players but there are a lot of capable players on Khyber.  The reality is the lure of the eSoS has drawn undergeared and underprepared players into these raids where they have been gimped along.  If you don't have the HP or equipment you just shouldn't be there. No LitII; no Dragon.  I know it sounds elitist but Epic is not for Casual players it's end game for the top players and characters.   For too long too many have felt entitled to Epic completion when they contribute nothing to the parties success.

Asheras wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 12:13pm:


Goodthings is a hell of player. 

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If you change employment, I bet you get to keep that chair.

stainer wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 12:43pm:

That would be awesome - it's a sweet ergonomic chair!  It's comfortable yet supportive, kind of like your nuts.

stainer wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 12:53pm:

My chest is all red and splotchy.

Eladiun wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 9:51am:


Amen to this.

Asheras wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 9:49am:


My issue isn't that it might take a pot, it's that the loot drops are still shit.  Nothing like running eVon6 or eDQ and seeing 1 item and 2 shards drop.  Or 3 explorer zone items and no shards