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Reply #25 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 11:53pm
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People suck at Rogues lately don't they?


Since bosses got massive hitpoints, DR and hit really fucking hard, the Rogue DPSr hasnt been the same. I'll res you to do traps, though.
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 12:43am
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Gunga wrote on Nov 28th, 2011 at 11:53pm:
Since bosses got massive hitpoints, DR and hit really fucking hard, the Rogue DPSr hasnt been the same. I'll res you to do traps, though.


It's got a monk lvl.

It gets AC now right? Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #27 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 8:27am
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It gets AC now right? Roll Eyes


Unless you're able to hit high 90s by yourself, than the ac isn't really worth a damn in epics. In order to get your ac up that high, you have to sacrifice the stuff that really does matter: dps and hitpoints. It's not impossible - I know a few people who play halfling ac builds very well. But I think the ac game is best played while TRing. The end game is DPS and Hitpoints right now.
  

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Reply #28 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 9:15am
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Gunga wrote on Nov 29th, 2011 at 8:27am:
Unless you're able to hit high 90s by yourself, than the ac isn't really worth a damn in epics. In order to get your ac up that high, you have to sacrifice the stuff that really does matter: dps and hitpoints. It's not impossible - I know a few people who play halfling ac builds very well. But I think the ac game is best played while TRing. The end game is DPS and Hitpoints right now.


It sucks, but you're right; 500hp is the new minimum for melee DPS, and AC is irrelevant. Dark monks can get away with a little less, because afaik there are still no bosses with ghost touch.
  

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Reply #29 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 9:32am
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Feynman wrote on Nov 29th, 2011 at 9:15am:
It sucks, but you're right; 500hp is the new minimum for melee DPS, and AC is irrelevant. Dark monks can get away with a little less, because afaik there are still no bosses with ghost touch.


You're misinformed. 700hp is the new minimum for melee dps. You want your tank around 1000hp.
  

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Reply #30 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 1:54pm
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Gunga wrote on Nov 29th, 2011 at 9:32am:
You're misinformed. 700hp is the new minimum for melee dps. You want your tank around 1000hp.


QFT, I'm working on a imp shield mastery build the will have about 1100 or so, the DPS is pretty crappy though. It will be able to tank just about anything though after completion. Sadly completion entails about 3 more PL's
  

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Reply #31 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 4:41pm
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Gunga wrote on Nov 29th, 2011 at 9:32am:
You're misinformed. 700hp is the new minimum for melee dps. You want your tank around 1000hp.


Remind me to never group with you; how bad must you be that you need everyone else in the group to be superman?
  

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Reply #32 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 6:40pm
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Feynman wrote on Nov 29th, 2011 at 4:41pm:
Remind me to never group with you; how bad must you be that you need everyone else in the group to be superman?


Sounds like that would suit us both, gimp.
  

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Reply #33 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 6:57pm
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Feynman wrote on Nov 29th, 2011 at 4:41pm:
Remind me to never group with you; how bad must you be that you need everyone else in the group to be superman?


Heh.  I think that 1000+ hp number is just for Lob tanking, so you don't have to swap tanks in and out, or shield block as often for the debuff to wear off.
  

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Reply #34 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 7:01pm
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I tank without 1000 hp all the time. =)
  
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Reply #35 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 8:42pm
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Osharan Tregarth wrote on Nov 29th, 2011 at 6:57pm:
Heh.  I think that 1000+ hp number is just for Lob tanking, so you don't have to swap tanks in and out, or shield block as often for the debuff to wear off.


It's actually pretty funny; my guild's "main tank" hits 100 ac and 1300 hp. That's fine, but he takes forever to get enough aggro for everyone else to cut loose. Yea, for LoB, as currently run, you want a big sack of meat, but that doesn't mean that your evasion dps needs 700 hp; I've tanked horoth on hard with less than that.
  

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Reply #36 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 11:04pm
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Feynman wrote on Nov 29th, 2011 at 4:41pm:
Remind me to never group with you; how bad must you be that you need everyone else in the group to be superman?


I run a 800+ DPS hate tank as my main. U Mad?
  
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