I spent most of the past weekend pugging my cleric on Khyber. Many of the groups had artificers between levels 11-14. Over the weekend, I recall receiving a grand total of two weapon imbues. One was because I directly asked for an imbue, and the second was in the next quest. The FvS or I rezzed that guys gimp ass at least once or twice in every quest in the Lordsmarch II chain. I used raise dead more over the weekend than I can recall in any two day stretch since I started playing the game. Most of the raises were artificers.

Yeah, pewpewpew kiting means you might end up outside of heal range. So when we're two-manning a ship in Blockade under-level on elite and I'm acting as the melee DPS and bringing the healing on my 12/2 clonk, please be advised that your red bar might not be anywhere near the top of my priority list. In fact, it will fall right off the list if you aren't dropping any buffs.

I can say this - watching artificers waste their blue bar healing and buffing their stupid explosive-barrel-breaking mutt is getting old. It adds less DPS and slows down the quest when compared to using just a few of those same SP to give the rest of the party tasty buffs like weapon imbues or armor of speed.

Half of these stupid artificers didn't have potions, or scrolls, or anything - I burned up several dozen heal scrolls on their worthless hides. FFS, I am on my first mid-level character on Khyber, have no twink gear apart from what was purchased using the plat infusion offered by Stainer's Welcome Wagon, and have ground out everything I have from quests, crafting, and AH.

Anyone playing an artificer is P2P, and someone playing a level 14 within a week of the class being released had bloody well better know the game well enough to know that playing every man for himself is suboptimal (I know this because Snootch said it, so I know it is true). If you have nothing to offer the party other than your pewpewpew awesomeness, then why are you still expecting others to heal and buff your useless character?

An artificer who doesn't drop imbues is like a bard who doesn't sing songs. /kick /reroll

So, tell us how you really feel

Saal

btw my arti is only 5 so wasn't me, but yeah those people suck

WAH WAH SOMEONE CAN'T CARRY ME THROUGH THE QUEST AND BUFF ME WAH WAH WAH go back to Orien

Kimberlite wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 3:42pm:


ALL I SEE IS THAT YOU ARE CRYING.

Running my FvS through lowbie stuff again.  I've seen more of the same.
They're worse than AAs because they IMMEDIATELY draw aggro.  At least with gimped archers you have a chance to grab aggro before they do.  With Artys, forgetaboutit.
I leave you to die, and laugh when you do so whining for heals when my LFM said BYOH.
I have no problems tossing heals to someone that deserves it, but when you're kiting everything you do not deserve it.

Soul wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:32pm:

Thank you for confirming that the simple reason is the correct one. Carry on.

Soul wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:32pm:

All I see is that you're a moron. 

Maxwell Edison wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 9:23pm:

And every minute you do that, you'll die a little inside, as you know deep down that you'd be having more fun playing your monk instead. You're only hurting yourself.

I think I'll take a few weeks off if druid ever gets released. All of the lowbie LFMs with three or four artificers will multiplied tenfold with druids. Of course, a party of six druids probably won't really need anyone else along.

Kimberlite wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 12:34pm:


I was with an arti who took the mutt-annoyance™ to another level.  He wasn't healing his dog but he did spend most of the quest say 'Can my dog get a heal please?'.

It got old in about 3 ms.

NotMyDDOName wrote on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 11:23am:


I encountered one of those on Lama and was rather "no, what the fuck, you have reconstruct and the rapair line of spells for a reason" about it.

Alekx wrote on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 11:58am:

Artificers right now are being played like the bastard child of a ranged ranger and a repeater mechanic.

I agree that their roll is still being figured out.

I've run with a few in both Lordsmarch and Gianthold

So far
One that literally asked - What buff you want on your weapon? upon his entering the quest

One that put a paralizing module on his puppy, so he didn't have to kite as stuff would stand still for him.

One that put turrets up after the fight was done

I think many are trying to figure out if the can be effective Melee (always have flanking with puppy) types, Casters, or Party buffers.  Kind of the questions you go through as a new person with a Bard...

Oakianus wrote on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 3:14pm:



Pretty Much.

Once people learn to play them there are a number of benifits.  Off the top, Decon is going to be huge in the new stuff.