I was actually surprised at how quickly I adjusted to the new reality.  I now run past enemies, hit Stunning Blow once I'm a couple of feet past and then back up to fight them.

It does suck in general, though.

popejubal wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 8:46pm:



I like to run up, chest bump the mob then take a half step back before I start swinging. But yeah I've (unfortunately) gotten used to the fucked up hit detection.

It is very annoying. According to some users on the other forums, its effecting spell casters as well to some extent; the ray spells are not targeting mobs properly either when casting according to some posts I read.

I usually start my melee attack chain with a trip or sunder; and as the first few swings on melee are "practice swings" it does throw my timing off a bit. Not game-breaking, but damn annoying.

That and the unbreakable breakables... Makes getting your smashy-smashy XP bonus a pain the arse to achieve now with every breakable item taking 2-3 swings to break.

kitsune_ko wrote on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 2:37am:


Just started my first arcane after U11. Thought I just sucked at targetting, but now I have something to put the blame on. Other than my lack of experience. And lag. And healers, despite playing a palemaster. It's all U11's fault if I do something wrong on my first caster, obviously. 

Definitely have noticed a lot of rays missing what should've been straight shots though, claiming I'm not 'facing the right direction'.

Mostly adjusted on my melees, though I do still find myself wasting a smite or two.

Felgor wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 2:06am:


Stay out of the green stuff.

WHY ARE YOU STANDING IN THE FUCKING GREEN STUFF

Felgor wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 2:06am:


I pug every raid all the time. If not for Prophets, Revenants and your guild I'd never get anything done.

Madcow430 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 12:45pm:



It's getting much easier.  As the strategy starts to trickle out and people learn it, it'll be puggable in no time.

Tried my first one on my ranger, no way I'm taking a divine into a pure PUG. Awesomesauce. The leader had never been in and had no real idea what to expect. One of our guildies was basically forced to take over. Not superfantastic divine healing, and that bugger HURTS if you aren't on the ball. Gave up and ranged in the end. Need some time to understand tells better.

I think it will be like TOD in the PUG circuit - many of the "PUGs" you see up aren't really, and many folk only join known names. I know I don't TOD with unknowns on my divines, although I'll risk trying a new clique on the melee.