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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 7:41am	Print Post
	I was asking the difference between the dps on the main forums, not peoples random comments and what would be best. Anyways, if someone here can break it down that would be great. Basically, dwarf lit 2 dwven axesx2 vs ESOS horc, all 20 barb. Yes, I know the h-orc is more, I want to know the difference.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #1 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 8:22am	Print Post
	It depends. If you want to compare Dwarf with DAxes with a TWF Horc with a weapon with a similar crit profile, then it's really straight forward. Even just changing to a weapon with a substantially different crit profile (like a hypothetical TWF eSoS) is going to severely muddy the waters and looking at one TWF vs. one THF style is just about impossible to compare directly without an enormous number of assumptions that need to be listed. Opponent's DR type and amount Strength Gear Feats Gear Opponent's Fortification Gear Opponent's mobility Your To Hit/Opponent's AC (not usually significant, but it could matter) and, of course... Gear. If you want to list those assumptions, I can do a DPS breakdown for you, but the "real" difference in DPS is going to depend significantly on all of those factors and more (how good are you at exploiting Turbine's failure to standardize attack animation times, for instance).
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #2 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 8:36am	Print Post
	well, since it is my character.. everything is going to be the same EXCEPT: h orc thf dmg enhancements, +3 power attack, and +4 str. ESOS. Dont worry about the extra rage stuff h-orc gets. dwf with Dwv axe enhancements. lit 2 pure dmg specced dual dwv axes. twf will have full line and horc will have full thf line cuz i dont wanna twitch on my melee, just my casters. everthing else will be the same, I am not worried about to-hit, I have that part covered.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #3 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 8:38am	Print Post
	if you wouldnt mind so much.... fort of 50% would be fine. Rest is inconsequential.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #4 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 11:51am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 8:38am: Rest is inconsequential.�


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Bahgoon Stormreaver Piker Offline Get off my lawn! Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #5 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 11:51am: � � � � � I think it is because you forgot Norway.

	The various modes of worship which prevailed in the Roman world were all considered by the people as equally true; by the philosopher as equally false; and by the magistrate as equally useful. - Edward Gibbon
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Ruinhorn Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 163 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #6 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 2:25pm	Print Post
	Try a DPS calc, if you wanted one you should have asked for one in your thread, bloody mouth breather.

	Quote: I am not the sort of person though to go all out at someone who is probably one of the most egotistical, chauvanistic people I've ever met though.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #7 - Oct 4^th, 2011 at 5:27am	Print Post
	Ruinhorn wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 2:25pm: Try a DPS calc, if you wanted one you should have asked for one in your thread, bloody mouth breather. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=345056 boobies is pretty specific.� You try a DPS calculator you rascist foxtard. Errmm, first... uh.. post...
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	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Hi Welcome King of Trolls Offline Drama chips... now in Argonnessen Apple flavor! Posts: 2759 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #8 - Oct 4^th, 2011 at 11:23am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 5:27am: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=345056 boobies is pretty specific.� You try a DPS calculator you rascist foxtard. Errmm, first... uh.. post...

	� �� Epoch wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 5:15am: When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.� This board promotes trolling.� If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.� You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem. Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:46pm: If one fails to understand the nuances of elite level trolling they would falsely interpret posts meant to fan the flames as support.
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #9 - Oct 4^th, 2011 at 11:26am	Print Post
	Ruinhorn wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 2:25pm: Try a DPS calc, if you wanted one you should have asked for one in your thread, bloody mouth breather. Epoch wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 5:27am: You try a DPS calculator you rascist foxtard. I sense a back story.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Ruinhorn Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 163 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #10 - Oct 4^th, 2011 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 11:26am: I sense a back story. Of about 5 minutes. I was just correcting the guy posting crap about Dwarves and 18/2s, I was trying to help a newb to avoid a stupid decision. In reality I was just replying to a lazy "vet". A_Os calc should take no longer than 10 minutes to understand. Once you do you can be checking builds in under 10 minutes. There's no reason for people not to use it and no reason for people not to look at Barb/fighter melee DPS with shades dps challenge.

	Quote: I am not the sort of person though to go all out at someone who is probably one of the most egotistical, chauvanistic people I've ever met though.
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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #11 - Oct 4^th, 2011 at 4:50pm	Print Post
	Epoch, you're way too fucking arrogant to be this fucking lazy.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #12 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 3:32am	Print Post
	Quote: Epoch, you're way too fucking arrogant to be this fucking lazy. True, but someone has to create drama. This is why I come here, for my drama intake. !!AND YOU PEOPLE ARENT PROVIDING!! Everyone knows dual wield dwarven axes don't compare, lol. I am more of a "jump in the middle of this drama" then a "let's start some drama" kind of person.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Terebinthia Horoluth Raider Offline All your cupcakes are belong to me! :D Posts: 2499 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2011	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #13 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 5:24am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 3:32am: True, but someone has to create drama.� This is why I come here, for my drama intake. !!AND YOU PEOPLE ARENT PROVIDING!! Everyone knows dual wield dwarven axes don't compare, lol.� I am more of a "jump in the middle of this drama" then a "let's start some drama" kind of person. So what you are saying is you pike drama? Shame on you.


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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #14 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 6:36am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 3:32am: True, but someone has to create drama.� This is why I come here, for my drama intake. !!AND YOU PEOPLE ARENT PROVIDING!! Everyone knows dual wield dwarven axes don't compare, lol.� I am more of a "jump in the middle of this drama" then a "let's start some drama" kind of person. Fail. Back to Korthos with you as you obviously still need it.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #15 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 6:41am	Print Post
	Quote: Fail. Back to Korthos with you as you obviously still need it. I will never go to korthos. Only noobs that get booted from legion go to korthos. I have insider secrets. True story, told it myself.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #16 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:33am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 6:41am: I will never go to korthos.� Only whiny bitchy noobs who die all the time that get booted from Legion go to korthos.� I have insider secrets.� True story, told it myself. Fixed it for you


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #17 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:42am	Print Post
	I have a question, if Soul is supposedly such a great player, how come he attacks all the good players out of pure jealousy? Obviously he will deny it, but we all know the truth.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #18 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:53am	Print Post
	Quote: Fixed it for you Also you will find, I am apart of no drama on the vault, I am just an avid lurker.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #19 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 8:16am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:42am: I have a question, if Soul is supposedly such a great player, how come he attacks all the good players out of pure jealousy? Obviously he will deny it, but we all know the truth. Because that's what wannabes do. Hell, I almost got sucked back into that shit. I was running eDQ and LoB with Legion/AA/Renowned last night and almost posted SSs, but then realized what's the fucking point. He's posted up in his gf's apartment ridiculing me for having once been in the most prestigious guild in the game at the time saying he's too busy to care about that stuff. Bitch please. He's a bum and a wannabe and I want to feel sorry for him, but he makes it really hard to give a fuck.


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #20 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 9:11am	Print Post
	Quote: He's posted up in his gf's apartment ridiculing me for having once been in the most prestigious guild in the game at the time saying he's too busy to care about that stuff. Bitch please. He's a bum and a wannabe and I want to feel sorry for him, but he makes it really hard to give a fuck. Now that you are OMGBIZZY you are again in a prestigious guild.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #21 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 9:17am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 9:11am: Now that you are OMGBIZZY you are again in a prestigious guild.� Damn it....I was hoping I found a gimp guild where I could be a god


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #22 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 9:20am	Print Post
	Quote: Damn it....I was hoping I found a gimp guild where I could be a god Cry It may be both. Although I think Lenny can give you a run for your money on being an elite player. I don't think he wants anyone to know how good he is.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Dwarf twf vs h-orc thf Reply #23 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 9:25am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 9:20am: It may be both. Although I think Lenny can give you a run for your money on being an elite player. I don't think he wants anyone to know how good he is. Lol, deal! Who's Lenny?


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