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ZeroBoost Titan Demolisher Offline res ipsa loquitur Posts: 381 Joined: Sep 1^st, 2010	Elite Shroud Nov 9^th, 2011 at 9:23pm	Print Post
	Shit's no joke now. That is all.


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #1 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	Yeah, trying for a second time.� Blades are killer.� They spawn from killed devils and chew up the party if you are all on the devil. The death from above is a nice touch too.
	« Last Edit: Nov 9^th, 2011 at 9:33pm by Eladiun »
	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #2 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 9:34pm	Print Post
	I used to think that anyone who pulled out during the blades was a moron. Now I think that anyone who stays in during the blades (even on Normal) is suicidal. Went into Shroud on Elite as our first Shroud run after U12 with the best Shroud party I've been with in quite a while and those blades kicked our asses. Reform and we still didn't quite make it because individual key people got surprised by blades spawning on top of them. I don't think that Elite Shroud is going to be all that bad to deal with in a couple of weeks when people are used to it, but it's a hell of a lot more interesting fight now than it used to be.

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Siver Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 241 Joined: Mar 12^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #3 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 9:36pm	Print Post
	ZeroBoost wrote on Nov 9^th, 2011 at 9:23pm: Shit's no joke now. That is all. It is actually pretty nice. A real decent challenge. Of course, we had two favored souls and my cleric when I tried it elite, so we didn't really stand any chance of completing. If we'd had another cleric it might have been different though. Silly favored souls are just too squishy.


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ZeroBoost Titan Demolisher Offline res ipsa loquitur Posts: 381 Joined: Sep 1^st, 2010	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #4 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 9:38pm	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Nov 9^th, 2011 at 9:32pm: Yeah, trying for a second time.� Blades are killer.� They spawn from killed devils and chew up the party if you are all on the devil.� The death from above is a nice touch too. Yeah. That's what got us. The blades from the devils. Each hit was hitting me for 80-90, and sometimes I would get hit 3-4 times by the same blade. I think right now, people are just surprised by the blades after ignoring them for so long


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Terebinthia Horoluth Raider Offline All your cupcakes are belong to me! :D Posts: 2499 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2011	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #5 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 10:25pm	Print Post
	what do you mean blades from the devils? Explain plz. Is this an elite Shroud or a normal Shroud quirk? (my agenda is I have 8 more of the fucking fuckers to heal before I get my necessary cleansing and then I'm never healing a fucking PUG Shroud ever fucking again cough) So what do I need to know to make this process bearable?


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ZeroBoost Titan Demolisher Offline res ipsa loquitur Posts: 381 Joined: Sep 1^st, 2010	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #6 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 10:31pm	Print Post
	Terebinthia wrote on Nov 9^th, 2011 at 10:25pm: what do you mean blades from the devils? Explain plz. Is this an elite Shroud or a normal Shroud quirk? (my agenda is I have 8 more of the fucking fuckers to heal before I get my necessary cleansing and then I'm never healing a fucking PUG Shroud ever fucking again cough) So what do I need to know to make this process bearable? When the trash devils die in part 4, their bodies turn into blades.


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Terebinthia Horoluth Raider Offline All your cupcakes are belong to me! :D Posts: 2499 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2011	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #7 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 10:37pm	Print Post
	So, this is a pre normal Arry drops burst cycle and unrelated to that? I'm less irked by that, as that bit's trivial unless you have a tard made of blue cheese


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #8 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 11:20pm	Print Post
	Tere, the blades now hit 60/70/80 damage. Even on normal they can wipe you. Just piling up and killing the trash isn't going to fly anymore. Strategy is back in the shroud.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #9 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 4:47am	Print Post
	When shroud first came out people used to fight the devils on the opposite side of where you zoned into part 4 and that would escape the blades. You might wanna see if that works if they are giving you that much trouble.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Razcar Dragon Raider Offline Jag �lskar Drama! Posts: 264 Location: Sverige Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #10 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 5:34am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 4:47am: When shroud first came out people used to fight the devils on the opposite side of where you zoned into part 4 and that would escape the blades.� You might wanna see if that works if they are giving you that much trouble. Good suggestion.


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Terebinthia Horoluth Raider Offline All your cupcakes are belong to me! :D Posts: 2499 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2011	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #11 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 6:02am	Print Post
	So this is on normal too? sigh I don't want fucking strategy in a PUGGle Shroud. I had a bloody 56 minute one the other day. I want to get in, kill the big red dude and get the hell out of there. Harumph.
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Nothingtoseehere Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 110 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #12 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 6:11am	Print Post
	We tried an elite Shroud too with a very good group and wiped in pt 4. Pts 1,2 and 3 were easy - just like a normal run pre-U12, the portals went down quickly, etc. However, the blades seem to spawn wherever the party is and I also get the impression that they follow you... The devils spawned a bunch that killed 3 members of the party, so we moved to what was apparently "the safe spot" and all of a sudden blades spawned on top of us again along with the 2nd wave of devils and only a couple of monks survived as they were able to use their monkey powers and swing away quickly.


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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #13 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 6:12am	Print Post
	I visually confirmed what I read earlier; the Barbazu turn into the blades when they die. Sort of a matter of putting them in the right position and you should be golden, as far as I could see.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #14 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 6:18am	Print Post
	Oakianus wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 6:12am: I visually confirmed what I read earlier; the Barbazu turn into the blades when they die.� Sort of a matter of putting them in the right position and you should be golden, as far as I could see.� Ahh, they used to spawn differently so we would pile up on the far end and never worry about them. It has been so long since I cared about blades (roughly three weeks after shroud release ~ it has been a long time so give or take a week) that I would not have noticed any changes.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Calvet Puppy Farmer Offline I take stroke pills! Posts: 1497 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Dec 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #15 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 6:50am	Print Post
	Norm doesn't seem so bad (Was in Oaks run earlier on my bard). Runs will probably need someone to call for people to get out of the blades, but you kinda needed someone to do a little organising in part 2 even before this. Hard/Elite seems rough from what I've read. Don't really have a problem with that tho. As long as Normal isn't stupid, people can still do casualish type runs when they don't want the hassle of srs bzns.

	Epoch wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 1:22am: You do what i do when people say I don't have to drink pots? I dot the boss and use BBs on the trash and say, " Aww shucks, im outta sp." Quote: Now I am a very bad cleric. I just wait like a vulture for everyone to die. Light a man a fire and he will be warm for the night.� Light a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #16 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 7:42am	Print Post
	Calvet wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 6:50am: Norm doesn't seem so bad (Was in Oaks run earlier on my bard). Runs will probably need someone to call for people to get out of the blades, but you kinda needed someone to do a little organising in part 2 even before this. Hard/Elite seems rough from what I've read.� Don't really have a problem with that tho.� As long as Normal isn't stupid, people can still do casualish type runs when they don't want the hassle of srs bzns. 200 HP wonders are going to be dead meat, tho.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #17 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 7:51am	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 7:42am: 200 HP wonders are going to be dead meat, tho. No different then it has ever been since they screwed ac over.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #18 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 8:02am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 7:51am: No different then it has ever been since they screwed ac over. True but this time they swept up the Drow casters who used to be able to hide in the corner.� �My 450 HP cleric got chased by blades and was dead before I could say boo. Nothingtoseehere wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 6:11am: I also get the impression that they follow you We were pretty sure they were.
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	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Calvet Puppy Farmer Offline I take stroke pills! Posts: 1497 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Dec 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #19 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 8:05am	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 7:42am: 200 HP wonders are going to be dead meat, tho. I try not to be Elitist, but 200hp toons should be mince meat in there to be fair. We had a cleric who had 250sih (Can't remember the exact hp but around there). That toon did die somewhere, but I don't think it was part4 (Someone with a lot more hp died tho). First life toons who don't have ubarz gear will still be ok on norm. A full party of first lifers with no real gear would probably struggle, but most shroud PUGs are at least 8 toons that have been capped a while with the last few spots for the not so geared etc.

	Epoch wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 1:22am: You do what i do when people say I don't have to drink pots? I dot the boss and use BBs on the trash and say, " Aww shucks, im outta sp." Quote: Now I am a very bad cleric. I just wait like a vulture for everyone to die. Light a man a fire and he will be warm for the night.� Light a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #20 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 8:13am	Print Post
	Eladiun wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 8:02am: My 450 HP cleric got chased by blades and was dead before I could say boo. Find the psionic moving them around and kill it. Problem solved.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Hordo High Rabbi Offline Le Douchebag Posts: 2405 Location: Cordova, Tennessee Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #21 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 8:20am	Print Post
	The blades hit my 750+ HP Pally in the no-no spot very, very hard... The Part 3 Blades are bad, but you can sort of time those door-to-door, especially if on a slow-moving toon like my pally. The Part 4 Blades just from the devil spawns are a real killer...wiped over half the party on elite the first time. Second time, on hard, wiped all but 2 folks who somehow got us through. Part 5, on hard, wasn't too bad at all. The real bottle-neck here is Part 4...bring some Band-Aids folks.

	I am the Rabbi, goo goo g'Jew! Who doesn't <3 Gornn? GORNN II 4:3:17 - For Gornn sent not Hordo into the world to save the party; but that the party through him might be wiped. [QUOTE=404error;4155294]Hordo I don't want to steal you from these forums because your almost an icon here. ;p [/quote]
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #22 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 8:50am	Print Post
	Did all three devil raids on Elite last night and eChrono. Post U12, Elite Shroud was BY FAR the hardest. That just ain't right. The blades have gotta get nerfed.


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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #23 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 9:15am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 8:50am: The blades have gotta get nerfed. I just sent this PM to one of the turbine guys that come to the Vault. New Elite Shroud You guys listened to us! It isn't just a 50 brazzilion hp mob that takes 20 mins to beat down.� FREAKING AWESOME! First impressions are you guys may have over did it with the blades. It feels like there isn't any way to mitigate them, but I have only ran it twice, so I am withholding final judgement. The strafing runs are funny as hell, the one time I wasn't dead in pt 4. I ran one challenge. I like the idea behind it, but maybe I missed something. It wasn't very linear. It was the one you put crests in the doors. I did get my ass kicked by some traps in there. I really, really like that they don't appear to be very long. Anyway, I was going to post something on the other forums, but there are 4678125467 posts already. If you could pass the word on, I'd appreciate it.
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	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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scraap Ex Member	Re: Elite Shroud Reply #24 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 9:44am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 9:15am: I just sent this PM to one of the turbine guys that come to the Vault. New Elite Shroud You guys listened to us! It isn't just a 50 brazzilion hp mob that takes 20 mins to beat down.� FREAKING AWESOME! First impressions are you guys may have over did it with the blades. It feels like there isn't any way to mitigate them, but I have only ran it twice, so I am withholding final judgement. The strafing runs are funny as hell, the one time I wasn't dead in pt 4. I ran one challenge. I like the idea behind it, but maybe I missed something. It wasn't very linear. It was the one you put crests in the doors. I did get my ass kicked by some traps in there. I really, really like that they don't appear to be very long. Anyway, I was going to post something on the other forums, but there are 4678125467 posts already. If you could pass the word on, I'd appreciate it. Let me know how that comes out. It's with no sarcasm whatsoever that I say it'd be good to know some extra feedback is getting through, instead of the impression given lately that folks have gotten locked into a echo-chamber and need a nuke to help em get back out. Despite the venting over here, I do prefer a civil conversation. Matter of fact, that's half the reason I let it out here, not there (Ok... Mostly).


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