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Hi Welcome King of Trolls Offline Drama chips... now in Argonnessen Apple flavor! Posts: 2759 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #150 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 11:40am	Print Post
	TDarkchylde wrote on Dec 11^th, 2011 at 5:47pm: Oh no, now you've done it. You used toppies. You have no original thoughts and are a very boring person.

	� �� Epoch wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 5:15am: When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.� This board promotes trolling.� If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.� You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem. Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:46pm: If one fails to understand the nuances of elite level trolling they would falsely interpret posts meant to fan the flames as support.
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notajedi Stormreaver Piker Offline What idiot puts personal information here? Gunga Posts: 528 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Definitely dying Reply #151 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 7:23am	Print Post
	Just check the number of instances. Before FTP came out there were 1 or 2 marketplace instances in the morning. In the evenings, you might get lucky to reach three instances. FTP came out there were four or five marketplace instances in the mornings, maybe eight in the evening. It is now back to three instances in the evening with at best you reach four instances. In the mornings it is one or two instances. This is even with the merge of the european servers. The player base is horrendous. Filled with jerks. Mainly because they have been jerked around by other players. In the old days, players would gladly give stuff away. Now, with the Cannith Crafting we don't give stuff away anymore, we deconstruct it making low end gear even more valuable. A new player cannot possibly gear himself up without patience. With the facebook generation they all lack patience. BTW, I also think the facebook generation uses swear words way too often. Shows a lack of intelligence. Turbine's goal is now to soak as much micro transactions out of the players, and Turbine is selling garbage in the DDO store. I also think that with the advent of the Guilds Turbine has had to up the difficulty settings of the game because people in large guilds are impervious to all low end quests. New players learn quickly when they form a party and the uber jerk uber player joins the party to show how superior they are, (in real life they are not superior so they use the game to show they are) and completely ruins the experience of the game for the new player. A new player, with no plat, and no guild is quickly discouraged. They will get blind invites to crummy guilds, be taken advantage of by the exeprienced player base, eventually the new player will just decide the game is not fun. Skyrim, Battlefield 3, and Call of Duty are also killers. SWTOR is really going to hammer it. My guess, 50% of the experienced player base is going to play SWTOR. I could be low on that estimate.


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Diogenes Ex Member	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #152 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 7:51am	Print Post
	My only previous MMO was Dark Age of Camelot. In 2002 there was a lot of doom being called as Mythic started running server clusters because the PvP population was too low to really sustain 3 faction wars. DAoC is still going, they're still making expansions.


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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #153 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 9:13am	Print Post
	Hi Welcome wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 11:40am: Oh no, now you've done it. You used toppies. You have no original thoughts and are a very boring person. How's that butthurt working out for you?


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Hi Welcome King of Trolls Offline Drama chips... now in Argonnessen Apple flavor! Posts: 2759 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #154 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 9:25am	Print Post
	Oakianus wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 9:13am: How's that butthurt working out for you? I'm not the one that takes it up the ass Oakyboy. Hi Welcome

	� �� Epoch wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 5:15am: When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.� This board promotes trolling.� If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.� You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem. Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:46pm: If one fails to understand the nuances of elite level trolling they would falsely interpret posts meant to fan the flames as support.
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Wezergistan Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 87 Joined: Dec 10^th, 2011	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #155 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 9:48am	Print Post
	new around these parts. i feel ddo is very dead right now. worst decisions the company has made since i started playing (june 06)


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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #156 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 10:01am	Print Post
	Hi Welcome wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 9:25am: I'm not the one that takes it up the ass Oakyboy. Hi Welcome No, you're just the one that I've now seen crying in multiple threads about a comment that I made a few days ago. Damn, those are some delicious tears.


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Hi Welcome King of Trolls Offline Drama chips... now in Argonnessen Apple flavor! Posts: 2759 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #157 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 10:37am	Print Post
	Oakianus wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 10:01am: No, you're just the one that I've now seen crying in multiple threads about a comment that I made a few days ago. Damn, those are some delicious tears.� I am playing with my toy. You know how it is. Bat it around everywhere, claw the shit out of it, then get bored and forget it exists. You are close to being forgotten Oak.

	� �� Epoch wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 5:15am: When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.� This board promotes trolling.� If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.� You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem. Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:46pm: If one fails to understand the nuances of elite level trolling they would falsely interpret posts meant to fan the flames as support.
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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #158 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 10:39am	Print Post
	Hi Welcome wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 10:37am: I am playing with my toy. You know how it is. Bat it around everywhere, claw the shit out of it, then get bored and forget it exists. You are close to being forgotten Oak. Yes, I can tell from the way that you're whining to others about something that I said a few days ago.


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Hi Welcome King of Trolls Offline Drama chips... now in Argonnessen Apple flavor! Posts: 2759 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #159 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 10:51am	Print Post
	Goddamnit. My Oakytoy just got knocked under the couch. Now I have to sit there and meow piteously for someone to pull it out. FML.

	� �� Epoch wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 5:15am: When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.� This board promotes trolling.� If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.� You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem. Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:46pm: If one fails to understand the nuances of elite level trolling they would falsely interpret posts meant to fan the flames as support.
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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #160 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 11:08am	Print Post
	Hi Welcome wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 10:51am: Goddamnit. My Oakytoy just got knocked under the couch. Now I have to sit there and meow piteously for someone to pull it out. FML. Doesn't sound too different from the rest of your posts.


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vyrn Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 23 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2011	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #161 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	Maybe Im just glorifying memories, but DDO was a hella more fun when I started, U3ish. Seems like they nerf something every update, or fuck around with something perfectly fine for no reason and break it. DDO would be great if you didnt feel something you take for granted, like the damn UI, would be somehow broken every patch/update.

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Hi Welcome King of Trolls Offline Drama chips... now in Argonnessen Apple flavor! Posts: 2759 Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #162 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 12:38pm	Print Post
	Oakianus wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 11:08am: Doesn't sound too different from the rest of your posts.� � Alas, my toy has been broken. I will have to settle for snatching birds out of the sky. Now where is my human bitch?

	� �� Epoch wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 5:15am: When people bring in their personal lives, it is all fair game.� This board promotes trolling.� If you bring something up, expect it to be used against you at a later date if not immediately.� You want to bring up personal shit, well, that is your problem. Eladiun wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:46pm: If one fails to understand the nuances of elite level trolling they would falsely interpret posts meant to fan the flames as support.
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Hafeal Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 107 Location: Sitting in front of a monitor Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #163 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 12:45pm	Print Post
	vyrn wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 12:16pm: Seems like they nerf something every update, or fuck around with something perfectly fine for no reason and break it. DDO would be great if you didnt feel something you take for granted, like the damn UI, would be somehow broken every patch/update. When you take a look at the sigs for some of the devs: Quote: No challenge, no fun. (madfloyd) Quote: From dev meeting: "It's fun to fail!" "Grouping in MMOs is 1d6 players pretending to like each other long enough to start drama over loot." "There is a way to implement it but it�s got so many red flags it�s like communism." "That tears it. I need to get a donkey." (flimsyfirewood) Is it any surprise they use DDO as their own personal playground for what they want to do? Do you really believe the dev idea of challenge and failure and that of the average player is the same? I don't. I think there has been Paiz lack of leadership in controlling dev meddling and keeping the game on course. I just wish they would stop looking at WoW and be original. I guess that would require effort and creativity. Ah, screw it.


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vyrn Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 23 Joined: Mar 24^th, 2011	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #164 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 12:56pm	Print Post
	Hafeal wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 12:45pm: When you take a look at the sigs for some of the devs: Is it any surprise they use DDO as their own personal playground for what they want to do?� Do you really believe the dev idea of challenge and failure and that of the average player is the same?� I don't.� I think there has been Paiz lack of leadership in controlling dev meddling and keeping the game on course.� I just wish they would stop looking at WoW and be original.� I guess that would require effort and creativity.� Ah, screw it. Hell, I dont even mind the nerfs. What makes me annoyed is random stuff getting fucked with for no reason at all. Seriously, they broke the UI 3 times, why in the world did they even touch that? Did anyone have a problem with the UI theyve used for years?

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Kracky Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 79 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #165 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 1:07pm	Print Post
	Dunno. Khyber old style Pug Epics are a thing of the past. Havent seen an E Chrono all week. Let alone E Von or EADQ1/2. Pretty depressing really. On the other hand the new stuff, Challenges etc and Shroud are still their. The one thing DDO has above all the other MMO's is a totally loyal playerbase of older players who all played P&P 25 yrs ago (ish). Unless Turbine really really screw up and fail to understand this they have a dedicated fanbase for life


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Hafeal Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 107 Location: Sitting in front of a monitor Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #166 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 1:41pm	Print Post
	Kracky wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 1:07pm: The one thing DDO has above all the other MMO's is a totally loyal playerbase of older players who all played P&P 25 yrs ago (ish). Unless Turbine really really screw up and fail to understand this they have a dedicated fanbase for life Uh, I dunno. A large number of that demo left in 2009 prior to f2p. And there has been a pretty steady stream 'leaving' (going f2p but not actually playing the game) since. I look around now and you just don't see anywhere close to the number of old timers people seem to think still float around. A couple of high posters on the DDO forums give the impression of lots of old timers. But, to me, the number of pre-2009 posters has grown ever increasingly smaller as has those playing the game.


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Jalora Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 240 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #167 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	Kracky wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 1:07pm: The one thing DDO has above all the other MMO's is a totally loyal playerbase of older players who all played P&P 25 yrs ago (ish). Unless Turbine really really screw up and fail to understand this they have a dedicated fanbase for life A dedicated fanbase of 25 does not a successful MMO make.


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Belwaar Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1017 Location: With Hordo's Mom Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #168 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:29pm	Print Post
	Kracky wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 1:07pm: Dunno. Khyber old style Pug Epics are a thing of the past. Havent seen an E Chrono all week. Let alone E Von or EADQ1/2. Pretty depressing really. On the other hand the new stuff, Challenges etc and Shroud are still their. I don't know what time you're logging on, but there were at least 3 eDQ2 runs last night that I saw. And I ran a eVoN6 as well...we failed, because it was Stainer's group...but that's besides the point.

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Flint Stormreaver Piker Offline I'm a Halfling on the EDGE! Posts: 567 Location: New Jersey or Armpit of the US Joined: Jul 20^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #169 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:35pm	Print Post
	Belwaar wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:29pm: I don't know what time you're logging on, but there were at least 3 eDQ2 runs last night that I saw.� And I ran a eVoN6 as well...we failed, because it was Stainer's group...but that's besides the point.� You had fail written all over you last night didn't you.�


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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #170 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:36pm	Print Post
	I don't know if it is dying but it has definitely hit a dead spot. With the release of a number of big game titles (Skyrim, AC:Revelations, MW3, BF3, SW:TOR), I have seen a huge dip in activity just in the guild then couple that with the Holiday season and finals for anyone in college and you have a seasonal lull. Now you add those who are disgruntled with the last two patches, those who are annoyed with all the unfinished half assed content, those who are sick of the way Turbine has been raping the game for instant money, those like me who are fed up with the ever worsening game performance, and those who are just plain bored. It means...the servers are virtually dead right now. Not as bad as the bad old days but if Turbine doesn't do something to electrify it's customers it will get there in 9 months to a year.

	Nevynn wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 11:38pm: Anybody coming to this board expecting anything more sophisticated than a dick joke had better get used to disappointment. Calvet wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:18pm: I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.� I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all. Quote: Eladiun is an awful person
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Belwaar Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1017 Location: With Hordo's Mom Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #171 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	Flint wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:35pm: You had fail written all over you last night didn't you. On a positive note, I didn't yell at anyone! I wasn't even mad or slightly frustrated that we failed...
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #172 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	Belwaar wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:29pm: I don't know what time you're logging on, but there were at least 3 eDQ2 runs last night that I saw.� And I ran a eVoN6 as well...we failed, because it was Stainer's group...but that's besides the point.� It wasn't stainer's group. It was Gunga's group. Gunga was doing it thelanis or ghallanda or wherever he is from way, and everyone else was doing it Khyber way. I was trying not to fall off.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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Belwaar Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1017 Location: With Hordo's Mom Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #173 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:42pm	Print Post
	stainer wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:40pm: It wasn't stainer's group. It was Gunga's group. Gunga was doing it thelanis or ghallanda or wherever he is from way, and everyone else was doing it Khyber way. I was trying not to fall off. Any group Stainer is in, becomes Stainer's group, unless Hordo is in group, then the heirarchy changes a bit... ...at least you didn't fall off...
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Is the game dying? Reply #174 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:44pm	Print Post
	Belwaar wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 2:42pm: Any group Stainer is in, becomes Stainer's group.� ...at least you didn't fall off... Hahahaha In guild chat I told Gunga I fall of the side one out of three runs. I fell off a guild ship later in the evening getting buffs. Pretty good night for me.

	Nilazgrc: For all those familiar with loreseekers/sentinels.... Dont run with Stainer.... Guy is a tool. Black list his toons. kmack can drive the tractor. The Vault donates to charity. JDollar wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 4:47pm: Stainer likes tractors
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