Epoch wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 7:01pm:


No, it wasn't ALWAYS auto-crit, but before that update, it was. I merely used PvP as my testing example. Now it counts as helpless. I have it on Smrti's DT. It makes me lol in epics when it does proc.

Nothing really has FoM out there though. It still procs.

Frozen Tunic is far easier to obtain than Red Dscale, and on a monk that isn't a Fire Monk, it's amazeballs.

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Can't really argue with that.  The grin for Red scales is horrid.

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No one should go for a high ac, maybe stalwarts or that other shield user type.  Six stuns is too much, unless of course you have shitty DC's.  I stun just fine with my three though.  I could consider another one, but really, 6? Ugh.

Like I said though, after I test it out whenever I play my monk again, I might drop a stun.  Why, I might even go dark monk since there are reliable dr breakers now.

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I was meaning more the silver kind of dr breaking.

The Freezing Ice has a very nice proc rate, from what I've seen, and definitely applies helplessness.  It also definitely applied auto-crit at least at some point (don't know about "always").  My DT has Freezing Ice guard.

I use them on a Light Monk, and I still run out of Ki using them, if I'm doing a lot of stunning fist/kakundo plus Earth/Air strikes.  I'm not sure when you last played, but the loss of auto-crits really put a damper on reliable ki generation.  If I had an Oremi's ring, I'd switch to that set in a lot of places, but even then, I'd use the Tunic against Devils.  Still well worth it for a tier I, at least.  Bringing them to tier III isn't a high priority for me, though.

I did drop Stunning Blow recently (leaving Stunning Fist, Kakundo, and Jade Prison for stunning).  It just wasn't very reliable, even with the Spare Hand.  I swapped it out for Improved Sunder.  I'm not so sure I'm happy with it, though.  A thread from October led me to believe that my Monk would get full off-hand procs when using it, double tapping it most times.  Looks like that isn't true, or at least changed since then.  Without that, seems like something I should leave to Barbarians.

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Yes.

Cor wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 9:40am:


Imp Sunder basically makes all your stuns get a +3 DC once used once. that effect stacks 5 times.

Let me repeat.

FIVE TIMES.

That's a +15 DC possible on ALL Fort based saves.

We just ran an eCoF in about an hour with brand new people to the quest. Stunned everything b/t 3 monk types, 2 Necro Wizzys and a really pathetic healer. I run a 42 DC SF and a 39 DC SB. those jump to 45 and 42 respectively.

With spare hand, that will go up to 50/47. then, once I have some T1 Air wraps with Stun 10 (I use crafted stunning 8), it'll be a 52 Stunning Fist and a 49 Stunning Blow.


What am I leaving to Barbarians again?

Epoch wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 7:53am:


Angry sex is the best kind!

Cor wrote on Dec 14^th, 2011 at 9:37am:


No wonder you're in DRB.

Imp Sunder replaces Sunder. Because it's vastly superior.

Monks lack on To-hit, so the -5 from Imp Sunder is amazing, as is the stacking debuff that makes it easier to land it.

You can fit in Imp Sunder AND SB AND SF. It's not hard, just takes a bit of looking at what you're doing.

Yea I was in that ecof with Smrti. I had about 42dc on stun I think, Spare Hand will really help, as will Oremi's Necklace. Should be 50dc once I fix up a few things.

Belwaar, the only tanks that would mind 1k lit strikes are those without intimidate. Go nuts and let me intimidate for even more hate gen.