I think I might want to try playing again. Maybe the game will be less boring to me after I haven't played it in a while. But I got two three quick questions.

Is the the House C pack worth getting? And what exactly are challenges and are they worth my time?

I like the challenges, but the pack is way overpriced.  Use the free tokens, and buy the Universal tokens with TP and plat (currently at about 15k each on the Khyber AH).  If you have some time to kill, you can create a new account, get 5 favor on a first character on six servers (easy, but sadly you can't skip the Grotto for this), use the free TP to buy 25 tokens, and mail them to your real account.

About half the Challenges are Crystal Cove copies.  One is almost exactly the same, while another takes place inside a building, which unfortunately tends to confuse the Kobolds.  Another set is a more straightforward zerg through a mansion and kill bosses (my favorite one), while another has you set up and defend crystal extraction machines.

The gear you can get is pretty nice, but it is a bit grindy.

I just bought the Secrets of Arti Pack for 20% off.

I heard from people in-game (not on the official forums) that the Raid LOB is fun.  I haven't run it completely. 

I've ran the flagging quests and they are a big bag of meh.  Really really meh.  We even did elite with normal non-epic toons, I piked and still won. 
You can't do that on Devils of Shavarath Pack.  I enjoyed ToD pack more.

Edit: Oh you mean the new House C pack. Sorry, I misread...

rest wrote on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 1:03pm:


This, on both account.

House C stuff is so so due to :

- yet another fucking crafting that has no relation with all the other crafting already in game with yet another heap of ingredients to collect.
- it takes 20 to 40 minutes just to reach the fucking raids, and that's running like headless chickens as a raid party. Even running to Titan looks interesting after a few time.

Right, don't buy challenge tokens just use the free ones I get. And weather or not I buy the pack will depend on weather or not my guildies are running it.

Calvet wrote on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 1:44pm:


There are ponies my friend. There be ponies.

I just came out of the hibernation of mindlessly grinding my TR to 20, but what I have seen of the challenges, they are fun for a little bit, but quickly get boring.  Personally, I suggest just taking the daily tokens.  They don't expire, so you can stock up on them, but they will take up bank space.

Pack is too expensive as is now.  Half the items are questionable as to whether they work properly and what WAI actually means for some of them.  Due to bugs/exploits/Oops casting a lvl 2 spell is not a strategy we thought of/etc patches and changes are still being made. 

Lastly, puging these is a nightmare.  They require some coordination and communication.  Random pugs don't seem to know these at all so it becomes a PITA.

If you are running these with a solid group of friends/guildies who know how to play the game, it could be worth the outrageous price.

c pack is worth it but the challenge pack isnt

Challenge pack has a lot of potential for XP grinding.  ~40k exp in ~10-15 minutes time if you can get a good group together.  Sadly, you can't, because there are hardly any groups for it, and those that are up are mostly grinding ingredients.

Deathdefy wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 3:56am:


Out of interest, which challenge are you running to get that many tokens in that amount of time? Somebody on the main forums was saying the return rate for the fire caves was pretty good but I've not had chance to give it a go yet.