Run Lava Caves : Colossal Crystals Epic 21.
Get "good" at it, utilizing a 6-man party.
Get 800+ Epic Jade Scorpions per 15 minutes.
Run 4 times a day.

That's 3200+ Jade Scorps in an hour, which translates to 10 Epic Dungeon Tokens an hour, plus 200+ Scorps left over for the next day.

I've been running them on Sarlona in Samulos' groups, and that's been my experience so far.  Much faster way of getting tokens than, say, running Epics.  Even better return rate than eDA's 4 per hour.

GreyMouser wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 11:35am:


Suck it hater!

I have run 3 challenges a couple of times over the last 2 days.  The novelty factor is still there for me and they're not bad.  Of course all I really look for in a quest is a swath of monsters I can hurl myself at until candy comes out.

GreyMouser wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 11:35am:


Sorry mate, I don't bitch much, and I help out on Lammania whenever possible,but since you are paying attention, I have something to say.

A small portion of the population may enjoy them, but most are only grinding them for the favor/loot.

Attaching favor to them was a horrible idea. Since you can't get all 5 stars without a full group ( I guess you can on an arcane, according to some) on most of them, ViP's (yes, I know premium is a better value, but at $100 for a year, I prefer to be lazy) like me ended up purchasing arties with my "free" TP. That is plain wrong.

On Ghallanda you can't get groups for them, even at lowest level and marking it as a favor run. I know, I tried for almost a month and a half putting up LFM's and advertising in channels. Those with more time to play had what they wanted in the first couple of days and are done with them. No one else is interested.

They are not fun, some even have counter intuitive goals (raise 12 kobolds? Why are we supposed to let them die just to achieve a goal?) and forcing people to "play my way or pay" to get something a ViP should get automatically or with "minimal" effort is bull.

I am ok with earning favor as an unlock, but "forcing" people to play a specific type and group of quests is a piss poor idea. Like with FvS, an overall favor requirement would have been more palatable. But you say it goes with the House C theme, so it should be House C favor. No. The character plays everywhere, not just House C. The character is supposed to a hero in Stormreach, not just House C.

Minimally, it should have been the first favor unlock if you kept it in House C.

Landar wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 10:43am:


Hmm. That's something I hadn't considered.

I'm a bit hampered on the challenge front as my main running partner doesnt have the pack and wants nothing to do with it. I hop into groups when I am on and he's not to try and grab the Cannith favour more than anything, but it would be nice to build up a stockpile of tokens before my sub runs out in May. Hmmm.

Landar wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 10:43am:


With scaling as it is in the challenges(stupidly scaled) I find it much easier to run with 4 man groups. spawns are less, damage less, hp's less.

seems like they have 4 teirs of scaling. solo, 2 man, 3-4 man and 5-6 man. havent tested it extensively, this is only my observation from spending way too many hours in them.

Buying time is the best IMO. Level 21 with 4 people is the sweet spot.

• One for torches
• One to clear around the center and hustle back for incoming
• Two to range out and kill stuff. (clear out the rooms the dragon can spawn in for a decent number of kills)

This one you don't stray too far from the middle with your torches. The first room in the upper east usually has ~5 purples (which is half your quota) and then down the ramp (instead of turning right into the first room) will usually yield the rest that you need. The rest is gravy. Add in kills, and you'll be netting 225-300 mephit wings per 5 minute run.

Yep. Almost 1 full token for 5 minutes of stupid torches. I love it.

Level 25 Time is Money solo, 150-250 per 5 minutes

Just grab teleporter, the deployed torches that are on the side of the base area so the kobolds don't wander too far and then featherfall off the bridge to the left. There are 5 pad locations in that area and usually purples. Deploy your teleporter and nuke the few mobs that might be there. Derp them with WoP if you aren't some sort of fancy caster person.

Sometimes you get a bad layout with no pads/purples, so you just recall and restart with your 45 seconds wasted.

Darkrok wrote on Jan 4^th, 2012 at 9:43am:


I agrere.  I like running the challenges just because I think they are fun to play.  It's not about the stuff.  Eventually I might get bored with it, but right now it's fun.

Well fuck the challenges now. No more awesome mephit wing farming.

Wish I had farmed epic tokens last week instead of leveling. Goddamnit.

Hafeal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 1:02pm:


Don't get me wrong, some of the loot is awesome. But beyond getting enough mats for a few items, there's little reason to run these. If I wasn't a VIP I'd never have set foot in them. And forget paying 1600 turbine points for them. As much as they want to claim 15+ quests, there are 4. Three if you count the cove clones and the same quest with a slightly different map, which I do.

I don't even bother with the one's I can't 6 star on my first run for XP.

GreyMouser wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 11:35am:


They're more enjoyable than slayers, but don't interpret that as any more than that.