Oakianus wrote on Jan 24^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:


Actually this bug happened when they made all the bags weigh 1 lb. when you put new stuff into a bag it doesnt acknowledge the bta/ btc status of the item and just keeps the original status of the bag, if the bag was bta or btc during the patch then it stayed bta or btc

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I'm pretty against active cheating that fucks over the economy and bones people, but other than the rather specific complaints about fewer items being up for roll for a while, this one really doesn't have a massive negative impact on others and a lot of room for positive impact on the game as a whole.  This isn't creating millions out of thin air and warping the general economy, this is simply shuffling around items that already exist, while also giving newer players some great incentive to farm and jolting free a lot of the riches that are pooled up around long-time players. 

I can understand wanting to sit on the sidelines for this one, but I also don't think you have anyone but yourself to blame for not hopping in. 

Anyway, my point was simply that it's always surprising when a bug comes out as an exploit or something that benefits the community, considering how often bugs come out that fuck over the players.    Though Turbine's made it pretty clear that this isn't nearly as big of a deal as the last exploit, since they weren't exactly in a huge rush to patch it. 

And what are the chances that it breaks cookie jars again?

It's no doubt a combination of the two.  But grinding the same damned epic day after day for weeks on end just waiting for one drop when there are other people out there just sitting on the loot you want because it's useless to them isn't terribly fun.  And it's not that hard to get together an epic if that's what you want to do.  The LFM window works both ways.

The challenges are pretty damned interesting and fun now that I'm into them, I'd have to say.  They are to me, at least.  I really enjoyed the hell out of Crystal Cove (as did most folks) and so it's a blast to be able to fuck around somewhere with similar mechanics with real rewards that'll help you out in the long run.  I don't get how that's a joke at all, any more than the House P chain is a joke because you have to buy it with TP and it has easy tokens and decent epic gear.

Talking to people, many folk have given away far more than they have sold / traded, and made a lot of people happy in the process.

I'm finding it hard to get all finger waggy about this bug. Mind you, I don't really care what other people do in game TBH. My only beef with the chest exploit thingy was the perishing lag it seemed to be causing.

I've changed my mind on the challenge pack now I understand the dungeon token potential. It's far more fun to me to two or three man one of those with some friends than try to put together an epic PUG with randoms. And the cost of it isn't much more than the cost of one Heart of Wood from the store, so it's basically paid for itself with one TR. Plus some of the bits are quite nice.

Bags have been fixed, for now.

rest wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 10:51am:


It's a bound to character bag in the bank. First character to pull it out gets it and can reset the status by pulling the bound items out.

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depends how you define fixed.  If by fixed you mean fked up something else, then yes.  they are fixed

stainer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 11:25am:


Makes 2 of us!

Jaxx wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

I'll be in the Marketplace, tonight, casting Rage on all the people who are encumbered. 1 LDS per Rage spell. 

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I would blame the challenges more than the bags.  Most of the people in my guild, that run epics on a regular basis, are interested in slotting their items.  Slotting = Tokens.

furbyoats wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 11:47am:


Try 180ish dragon runs without a red dragon shard