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One thing I don't understand, not that it could be a problem, is how the property rights work. Cyptic is releasing the NWN MMO, which is FR setting. How does this all work out?

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Cheers, that makes it even easier.  You just have the portals go through the abyss.

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Cool beans. Cryptic is going to be pissed if they release around the same time frame.

The realms are the most popular D&D property.  The world has become a cluster-fuck of crazy, but there is a place anywhere on that world for anything.  I could see Turbine adding a FR world, but to really bring in the people they would need to be enough FR stuff that people would not need to go to Eberron at all.  If they had their own starting area and at least enough quests/explorer areas to cap a character and at least 1 class that is not available/released in Eberron but is in FR..... well it might work.

Personally I would love to see a spelljammer/planescape type hub with Eberron, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, FR, Darksun, Ravenloft, and Al Qadim all represented in different areas.  Imagine taking a Mul Gladiator and a High Elf Bladesinger along with your Warforged Wizard, Caliban Knight of the Raven, Half-djinn Sha'ir, and Teifling Warlock for a quest aboard a spelljammer ship!

JakLee wrote on Jan 13^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:



Al-Qadim is on Toril, the same world as FR, Kara Tur and Maztica. Maztica was ripped off Toril for 4E and replaced with Abier, making the world called Abier-Toril.

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This is still the case if you follow 3.5 edition cosmology. But Turbine has broken those rules before

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I have the old box set from 2.0 edition - Abier-Toril (or some such spelling) is ALWAYS what the world was called, LOL.

The Al-Qadim was incorp'd into FR, but Kara Tur & Maztica were always intended to be parts of the world when designed & places like the Old Egyptian section (the name of which eludes me att) that was south of Thay or the Horselords expansion just kept adding races of people to incorporate mythos that woudl help boost sales.  Some of that stuff was REALLY well written.  Some.

JakLee wrote on Jan 13^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:


Mulhurand

Since they only really use the cosmology correctly when it suits them, it will probably go something like this when the story gets released:

Due to the planar imbalance caused by the Black Abbot that allowed stuff like the Shavarath invasion to happen, the imbalance has gotten worse and caused tears in the fabrics that hold back the realities themselves.  It has been found that one of the more accessible of these tears happens to lead into Lolth's home plane.  Explorers that ventured into this plane discovered that Lolth is planning to invade with the help of the Shavarath demons/devils.  In order to prevent this 2-front war, we enlist the help of the people from the Forgotten Realms in order to have Lolth occupied and not able to launch her own invasion. 

Since the bad guys would all be devils and drow, there would be no need for new art which would be too costly and fit within current engines.

Of course this could all be prevented by druids (who are planar guardians in Eberron) but since there are no PC druids this all is feasible ..

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Yeah, 4e really messed up all that stuff. There are all sorts of overlapping planes now.

Really easy to justify a cross setting campaign with the cosmology set up like that.

Really hope they don't go into forgotten realms or another setting. FR has been done to death in every fucking dnd game to date and is still the defacto setting for most pnp games. Which means it is popular but I would rather DDO be DnD but be something different and interesting that keeps my imagination going and honestly so far Eberron has done that and I would hate to go to far away from Eberron with so much more of the world to explore with the game

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